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    Quote Originally Posted by AquaLantern View Post
    Am I the only person who didn't see Carol as the "villain" in Civil War II?
    Carol was doomed to be the 'villain' the moment the event was framed as <FREEEEEDOM> vs <nebulous not-freedom?>. Before even the first issue came out, a large majority of potential readers had already written Carol off simply based on that framing, where anything that actually happened was irrelevant, because Carol hates <FREEEEEDOM> obviously.

    The actual events of the actual event were moot. Carol could have only used her power and authority to save orphaned kittens from poison volcanoes and it would not have mattered because <FREEEEEDOM> was at stake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaximoffTrash View Post
    Well, it looks better than AA visually. But shouting out their moves turns me off
    Everything is better when moves are shouted at. Not just attacks, but any move, really. "SITTING DOWN! TEXTING A FRIIIIIIIEEEEEEEENNNNNNNND!"

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    TYPING A REPLY ON A FORUM!!!!!


    hm, you're right.
    I surrender to the Contest

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    Whoops. Maybe it doesn't necessarily make committing a felony better....

    gotta run

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Wessex View Post
    TYPING A REPLY ON A FORUM!!!!!


    hm, you're right.
    You are still going to get weird looks from people.


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    LOL. I just stumbled across this. I can't help it... I'm sorry!!! LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Star View Post
    LOL. I just stumbled across this. I can't help it... I'm sorry!!! LOL

    Omg, that face.

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    Fried pie variant for next weeks captain marvel and captain mar-vell generations one shot.

    The cover is by Stephanie hans.
    Last edited by Ianbarreilles; 09-06-2017 at 10:19 PM.

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    Ooooh. Looks art nouveau...ish. Best Generations cover by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Star View Post
    LOL. I just stumbled across this. I can't help it... I'm sorry!!! LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Star View Post
    Ooooh. Looks art nouveau...ish. Best Generations cover by far.
    Yeah, all Hans' Generations covers fit this same format, but I think this one's the best. The symmetry just works perfectly on this one.

    Meanwhile, I haven't read the Venomverse War Stories comic, but apparently, Magdalene Visaggio brought this into the world:

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    Carol Danvers: Captain America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiamatty View Post
    Yeah, all Hans' Generations covers fit this same format, but I think this one's the best. The symmetry just works perfectly on this one.

    Meanwhile, I haven't read the Venomverse War Stories comic, but apparently, Magdalene Visaggio brought this into the world:

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    Carol Danvers: Captain America.
    Didn't the Mangaverse Carol become Captain America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarvelMaster616 View Post
    You're not alone, my friend.

    It's just the popular perception that Carol was the villain. She wasn't. I think people just resent the fact that her side made some distressingly valid points that Tony never fully addressed. I also think some just feel as though Carol is being pushed too hard into the spotlight, making her out to be too flawless in anticipation for her movie. I don't think those sentiments are correct, but I understand where they're coming from.

    When I read Civil War II, I don't see Carol being a villain. I see her using an important new asset to save lives. Isn't that what we want in our heroes? Or does that just make too much sense to the jaded people of this world?
    And then I came to a realization that what they're doing, putting out fires, stopping bank thieves, preventing their multiverse from crumbling on itself, basically whenever they don the capes and masks already has an effect on the future. And if they were so afraid that anything they did would lead to WWIII then why bother with the heroics at all.

    "Sorry Cindy, I would love to save your cat from a tree, but I don't want to risk the chance of the Moleman melting the polar icecaps 10 years from now."
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    If the "Carol Danvers' War" stuff has taught me anything, the real villain of Civil War II was bad writing.

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    ^you got that right.

    wasn't that the problem with CW1 too?
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