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    If sales were always a guarantee of quality Mcdonald's would have the healthiest food on Earth, and Deep Throat would have won an Oscar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Poison View Post
    Wow........it came in at #18? That's almost as good as Azzarello's #1 relaunch which came in at #13. Congrats to the Finchs!
    Yeah but Brian's WW#1 competed with all the new 52 issues #1. I expect 37 to sink to the bottom of that list unless everyone's suddenly gone insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by gingergypo View Post
    Yeah but Brian's WW#1 competed with all the new 52 issues #1.

    Which also made it part of a group of comics that completists bought as they wanted to have a full set of all of the #1 issues of the New 52.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Outside_85 View Post
    He isn't, as far as I am aware, he's actually better known for being a Vertigo editor.
    19 000+ Chiang followers on twitter vs 9000 Finch followers. I think the readership likes one better than the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brettc1 View Post
    If sales were always a guarantee of quality Mcdonald's would have the healthiest food on Earth, and Deep Throat would have won an Oscar.


    I'd have to agree with you partially. Companies like McDonald's, Walmart, and X-men comics seem to sell boatloads month after month regardless of quality but I do think that some things can achieve a level of quality due to the amount of time, effort, and creativity put into them. At the same time, once something or someone becomes extremely popular, those wanting to be trendy will drop these things like a hot potato so that they can keep their "Hipster" status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Poison View Post
    While he was on Wonder Woman, he was also doing variant covers for books like Batman, Batgirl, and Superman/Wonder Woman. He also did the promo poster for last year's WonderCon.
    Yet he is still not announced as a Superstar Artist the way Finch is, neither was Azzarello announced as a Superstar Writer like Geoff Johns is. (I dont recall Darwyn Cooke or Scottie Young being announced in this fashion either btw).

    As for Wonder Con... ok I have to admit I though it was glaringly obvious why they asked him in the first place.

    Quote Originally Posted by gingergypo View Post
    19 000+ Chiang followers on twitter vs 9000 Finch followers. I think the readership likes one better than the other.
    That is actually surprising to me. I do follow Chiang on Twitter and he is nearly silent, that said, if people follow him because of his art or his editorial work is up in the air.
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    Does every thread have to devolve into "how Azzarello actually sucked"? Isn't this thread supposed to be about issue 37's preview? I suspect if the writing doesn't improve sales will free fall pretty quickly. David's art is obviously well received, even though I'd say his depiction of Diana is WAY too young. Merediths writing is more than a little on the stilted side, but I've read worse. I do like that the plotting that appears to be happening though. She's setting the stage for what could be an interesting storyline ... I just hope she can tighten up the writing and avoid some bigger missteps like the entire "heart to heart" with Aquaman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outside_85 View Post
    That is actually surprising to me. I do follow Chiang on Twitter and he is nearly silent, that said, if people follow him because of his art or his editorial work is up in the air.
    According to google trends, Chiang's popularity on google skyrocketed in 2011 and was close to 0 before that so I guess that settles it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Poison View Post
    1.) So how many reviewers do you figure let Azz's writing slide because of Chiang being a superstar artist?
    Based on the reviews I can recall, zero. Is there one along this line that you can think of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darius View Post
    Does every thread have to devolve into "how Azzarello actually sucked"? Isn't this thread supposed to be about issue 37's preview?
    As for this....

    While I'm not ready to condemn an issue based on a preview, I won't be getting my hopes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Poison View Post
    I have to wonder what those who defended Azzarello's run when questioned why, if it was such a great run, why it wasn't selling better, will still point out that sales don't always equate to the quality of a book now that the Finchs have taken over if the Finchs sales become similar to or less than Azzarello's?
    Seems sort of simple.

    That run insulated the character from the wider DCU. If you do that, I don't expect a sales bump.

    One of the blocks that makes up the foundation of the new run is a connection to the wider DCU. If you do that and still wind up with a sales drop, how do you excuse it? Shouldn't you have(at the very least) the readers who were buying the other WW titles during the former creative team's run?

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    Steering back to the preview....

    What are the odds that the "Cyborg" call leads to some sort of Justice League sitdown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Steering back to the preview....

    What are the odds that the "Cyborg" call leads to some sort of Justice League sitdown?
    Superman will show up

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    Sure. I'm wondering if there will be an actual follow up to Diana's portion of the first half of the last issue.

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    Okay, enough is enough.

    this is a discussion of the preview. This is not a discussion of Azzarello, Chiang or whether the previous or current team are more popular on FB, Twitter or wherever. Whether or not someone has more followers than someone else does not mean their works is inherently better.

    Talk about the preview. Period.
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