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    Again, them having any normal sabots is supreme PIS, not having a supply chain or ammo depot present even moreso, like they just waltzed in and started shooting without thinking, durr, we might need to reload and refuel at some point, this is CONUS, they have normal bases within driving distances. Brooks basically just took the old joke about old generals and latched onto it as his entire justification for the scene with no regard whatsoever for actual doctrine(and I'm not talking about some half hearted wire, I'm talking about properly set up triple Concertina Coils, which when set up properly can stop tanks dead in their tracks).

    And I don't believe Cap gets tired, or at least not the way a normal human does, keep in mind Cap 2 opened with him running 13 miles in half an hour(to put this in perspective that comes to about 3 minutes 15 seconds per mile, the world record for a single mile is 3 minutes 43 seconds), which is essentially a non stop dead sprint without ever slowing down, and he was barely breathing hard
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    Quote Originally Posted by King of Asgard View Post
    A line of tanks would not get very far if they charged forward. Very quickly, the treads would get clogged up with zombie bodies, rendering the tanks useless. A tank simply isn't designed for this sort of work. The fact that a tank can destroy buildings or other tanks is irrelevant. They are not designed for anti-infantry combat. This issue is exaggerated when fighting an unfeeling, unthinking horde of millions.

    The reason why the military easily crushes the zombies in Shaun of the Dead is because it is a satire of zombie flicks. It was merely appealing to the commonly held opinion regarding zombie apocalypses, namely that it would be comfortably brought under control by the authorities.
    Clog up? Not very likely. You do understand that 50+ tons moving at 50+ miles an hour.....doesn't really stop for anything not bigger than itself, right? And tank treads....don't really clog down so much. And tanks are well used against infantry forces. Ask WWII folks about that. Tanks can very easily be used against unarmed groups of people, which is what zombies are. And yes, being able to blow up groups of people with a single shell does come into play. Concussive force + fire damage + shrapnel means lots of things get ripped apart.


    95% of zombie movies play to the overhyped nature of zombies, and the underselling of every major military force in the world. Zombie movies play to the common movie stereotype that all militaries are incompetent and all governments will panic at the first sign of trouble.
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    Zombie movies also forget things like basic human/animal nature.

    People avoid bums, and naturally dodge anyone lunging at them. People stay in places with closed/locked doors throughout most of the day. People generally band together when a central outside danger comes into play. People know what rabies is, so anything with similar symptoms will automatically cause people to avoid being bitten.

    (Slow) zombie media throws all of this out of the window, and it's only because the creators want so badly to get to the apocalyptic plot.

    Even Night of the Living Dead, which pretty much says "people win when they aren't being stupid" as the point of the movie, has a giant handwave at the beginning. Where the heck did all the zombies come from in a remote area around a remote farmhouse, on day 1 at the zero hour? The implication was that they were around a graveyard, I guess, but a zombie can't get out of a casket, nor would it want to because of nothing to draw it out.

    World War Z was terrible about this, because it inexplicably jumped to "millions of zombies everywhere" with vague handwaves of "fake vaccines" and such (ok, people would still not want to get bit), and then handwaved how weapons worked and everything else. As far as the battle goes, this is no problem at all for this group, as Hulk can just walk through them and Thor can keep tornadoing and blasting them.

    However, if Max Brooks wrote it, Hulk would eventually get tired from being dogpiled, and the lightning would "not work because their bodies don't conduct electricity," and tornadoes "would not work because it just flings them around even though tornadoes rip people apart from debris and break every bone in their bodies"

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    Brooks did write in his survival guide that enough electricity would kill a Zed if it fried his brain, lightning would clearly fit the bill.

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