Johns' Shazam vs. Morrison"s Captain Marvel

[KurtW95]

How is wanting to buy beer a legitimate complaint?

It's a kid buying beer.

I don't want this thread to turn into attacks on either version of the character. Just which incarnation you think would sell better, and why.

Exactly.

[Deniz Camp]

It's about what the beer represents: kid uses powers for personal gain vs kid uses powers to help others.

I'm just not sure why it's an either/or thing in the case of "Nu" Billy. He's doing both.

[Sirzechs]

It's a kid buying beer.

So basically the real world?

[blaster86]

New 52 mainly cause he act like a real kid

[Dataweaver]

If a Shazam series by Johns and Frank was launched at the same time as a Thunderworld series by Morrison and Stewart, which do you think would sell better?

I don't want this thread to turn into attacks on either version of the character. Just which incarnation you think would sell better, and why.

Yeah; I get not wanting to turn it into an attack-fest. I personally like Thunderworld more than Shazam; but there’s no way that Morrison’s Captain Marvel would work on Earth-0. If Earth-0 is to have a Shazam/Captain Marvel type character on it, Johns’ Shazam is as good as any.

Ultimately, I think that “which will sell better?” is unanswerable right now, because of insufficient information. Shazam could sell quite well if written right; but “written right” does not mean “make it as much like Thunderworld as you can”. It needs to carve out its own niché, and to establish itself as something inspired by, but distinct from, Thunderworld. Thunderworld has a refreshing edge to it (it’s flat-out fun); and as long as it maintains the simple joy demonstrated in its one issue, it will sell well. I honestly don’t see its disassociation from Earth-0 as a detriment; and if presented properly, I don’t think the overall fanbase will either.

[Starchild]

What kid wouldn't use their newfound abilities for their own personal gain? Give me a break! Not every superhero is going to be a too goodie two shoes.


Now on to something that actually matters............Who would sell more? It's pretty darn close imo, edge goes to Johns though.

[Coal Tiger]

New 52 mainly cause he act like a real kid

Ugh, who would want to read that?

[KurtW95]

New 52 mainly cause he act like a real kid

So all real kids are huge jerks who choose to intoxicate themselves?

[Sirzechs]

So all real kids are huge jerks who choose to intoxicate themselves?

And what exactly makes him a huge jerk?

[KurtW95]

And what exactly makes him a huge jerk?

Read every appearance he makes in the New 52, then tell me.

[Sirzechs]

Read every appearance he makes in the New 52, then tell me.

Oh I have, its but it seem you only read the first four chapters of his appearance.

[Starchild]

And what exactly makes him a huge jerk?

It seems like people didn't read every issue. That or they didn't read it at all, maybe they are going by what others tell them.

[HsssH]

Reading this thread made me realize that I'm edgy and likely a jerk.

[gwangung]

So all real kids are huge jerks who choose to intoxicate themselves?

Um, are you a dad?

[gwangung]

Read every appearance he makes in the New 52, then tell me.

Dude, he asked you a question. And it was a very reasonable one.