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    Better late than never...

    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    Maybe I'll do a post that gathers some of Patty's quotes about SM and WW. More often than not, she bring up Kal when she talks about Diana.
    Patty Jenkins on Wonder Woman being similar to Superman and what both characters represent...

    "If you look at the history of Wonder Woman, you look at the iconography, the images that have kept her alive – they're not dark. The thing I think is so important to always keep in mind about her is how positive and bright and shiny she is – very much in the same way that Superman has been. Staying true to the spirit of that seemed incredibly important to me. And it's the kind of superhero film I believe in anyway."

    http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/f...f-hero-w485183

    “There’s been a fear that you needed to go harder in some direction to make Wonder Woman interesting, and I was always confused by it. She's pretty simple. She is like the parallel of Superman. She's good, she means well, she's kind, she's loving.”

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment...530-story.html

    "So I really wanted to focus on her being a universal character, her being a hero, and what her ambitions are. The same way Superman is not about being a man, Wonder Woman is not about being a woman. They're both about saving mankind. They're both about a bigger, bigger issue. So it's actually been great that so many people of both genders have a similar reaction, that one is not feeling more strange than the other."

    http://www.scpr.org/programs/the-fra...reaction-to-w/

    “I think the coolest opportunity with Wonder Woman is that she is the archetypal ideal of the greatest woman of all time. She’s not a certain kind of woman. She’s not any smaller than that, you know? She’s not a specific woman of only a certain kind. She’s the idealized universal woman, not unlike what Superman is to men. Superman is the great hero, you know? That’s who he is, that’s what he stands for. He stands for good and triumph and vulnerability and having a sense of humor but wanting to be great and all those things. Wonder Woman the one and only version of that for women.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csYR...utu.be&t=6m18s

    "She stands for an idealized version of a hero that, in this case, is from a point of view of a woman. What Superman is to boys, I feel that Wonder Woman is to girls. It's the clean superhero. You trust them, you like them, you wish you could be them, and you wish you could look like them. It's exactly that fantasy that struck me so hard as a little kid."

    http://exclaim.ca/film/article/patty...er_woman_movie

    "Even though Diana is a god and Clark Kent is an alien, that’s not the story those movies tell. They tell the story of an everyman. And a good everyman – an everyman with all the intentions that we have, anywhere we live. And definitely being not in the cities and not being in the most advanced places, I definitely am familiar with that everyman feeling of like, “I’m just a girl in Kansas. How can I change the world?” And that’s an important element of this kind of story’s universality to people and definitely something I’m grateful for."

    http://uproxx.com/movies/patty-jenkins-wonder-woman/

    Patty said many times that Superman - The Movie and the Superman character "inspired" her Wonder Woman...

    "The alley scene was a direct homage. That was a ton of fun. But tone and character overall is the biggest indicator."

    https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/statu...66417758552064



    "I think that's exactly what has always made Superman capable of those kinds of arcs. You're not worried about Superman. You know he's going to end up being Superman, so you can have the confidence to have a good time and have him not understand how the revolving door works and things, and not know how to deal with man's world and this great sharp, savvy Lois Lane.

    I thought that was important to apply that same kind of philosophy, and that part was easy for me because I do have so much respect and confidence in her that I had no problem having fun with what she doesn't know yet."


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme.../#34318d6f4282



    Even a modern Superman movie gets homaged as the dreamlike sequence of Ares tempting Diana to join him and wipe away mankind mirrors a similar scene with Zod and Clark in MoS: http://emmakillian.tumblr.com/post/1...der-woman-2017

    The icing on the cake... https://twitter.com/Batmancanseeyou/...5313837834241/

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellacre View Post
    Reminds me a bit of little zod in Justice League Beyond. The son of the dna of Diana and Lord Superman. The kid gets kidnapped as a baby. Diana doesn't even know if he is alive. The kid thinks his parents abandoned him. He is furious. But Diana tries to reach out to him. She is full of apologies. She honestly did not know. There is still a lot of tension because the boy is so very angry and hurt. This is why this Diana's behavior to me feel off. It's all to depict her in this issue as the deadbeat mom no matter the other issues. Even Justice League Beyond Clark is a better friend to her in that storyline than this Rebirth Clark. I am sorry I find Rebirth Clark "friendship" nothing like pre nu 52 Clark. The guy has not really stepped up to act as a friend or a man that actually appreciates Diana as a person as I have seen the countless times he's done in post crisis canon. Diana has been a mouth piece for his status quo though.
    I like your assesments Hellcare but just to be sure Zod didn't reject Diana because she abandoned him in JL beyond. He said he knew when brianiac kidnapped him it wasn't her fault, but he knows she wanted to use him in her war with lord superman (war of philosophy). He just wants to figure things out himself he doesn't out right never speak to me again just don't get in my way. As i keep tellign people rebirth supes is different i don't know why they keep saying this is the superman we should love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Angel View Post
    i don't know why they keep saying this is the superman we should love.
    Maybe because he is?

    I don't know why it needs to be pointed out to you lot time and again Rebirth's Superman has gone over well with the crowd. Cats like Sacred can accept it and enjoy the current stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    Maybe because he is?

    I don't know why it needs to be pointed out to you lot time and again Rebirth's Superman has gone over well with the crowd. Cats like Sacred can accept it and enjoy the current stuff.
    Miles to Go, I think your views dont correspond to the folks here in the smww appreciation thread for obvious reasons. Maybe you are posting in the wrong place?
    Searching for Samus Aran. Still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles To Go View Post
    Maybe because he is?

    I don't know why it needs to be pointed out to you lot time and again Rebirth's Superman has gone over well with the crowd. Cats like Sacred can accept it and enjoy the current stuff.
    Not the thread but no one can tell me which superman i'm suppose to love. If thats how you feel you can leave this thread

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    https://tmblr.co/ZDIeYx2P44i83

    love what this person wrote..Thought I would share

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    This just isn't a thread about criticizing what others think. Everyone please understand that commenting on something you find disagreeable doesn't make an annoying conversation better or more manageable. If you don't want an argument (why anyone would is beyond me) don't have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juan678 View Post
    Nice! If it's an edit, it is very well done.
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    Boo Ray for Bizarro.

    Recent Justice League Action. Bizarro has a crush on Diana. Of course. It was a very cute and funny episode. He am not save the day too.
    Last edited by hellacre; 08-21-2017 at 08:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xarek View Post
    Nice! If it's an edit, it is very well done.
    No, it's not an edit. It's the cover of a book coming out in November: https://www.newsarama.com/36035-dc-c...citations.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Son of Krypton View Post
    No, it's not an edit. It's the cover of a book coming out in November: https://www.newsarama.com/36035-dc-c...citations.html
    Couldn't find official listings for it. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellacre View Post
    Boo Ray for Bizarro.

    Recent Justice League Action. Bizarro has a crush on Diana. Of course. It was a very cute and funny episode. He am not save the day too.
    This episode was so cute with Bizarro

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    There's a Wonder Woman exposition, celebrating her movie and her 75th anniversary, in Mexico that has been held since May and ends next week on the 31st. As with everything else from web articles, magazine articles (People and EW), and DC's most recently released character guide books and encyclopedias, that even feature Rebirth, has had the Superman/Wonder Woman relationship featured heavily as part of the character history as impactful and the only Romance implied and mentioned. At the exposition there's iconic covers featured and almost half feature Superman/Wonder Woman such as Justice League 12 cover(s), Kiss Selfie, SMWW book covers, and Darwyn Cooke variant cover.

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    Wonder Woman and Superman switching costumes (art by the talented Xty Xtoi): https://twitter.com/XtyXtoi/status/900740077965398017






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