Batman vs T-800 (Terminator)

[kingmyth]

How would Batman from the movie The Dark Knight fair against a T-800 Terminator from the first Terminator movie.

Fight takes place in Gotham City.

[Stigmazilla]

How would Batman from the movie The Dark Knight fair against a T-800 Terminator from the first Terminator movie.

Fight takes place in Gotham City.

Baleman has a bad habit of not using gadgets, so this probably turns into his fight with Bane all over again. If he's smart he retreats and blows it up with a tumbler

[Iron_Twister]

If he isn't aware of the Terminator's true form and took him for a very dangerous criminal, he's going to be in a world of pain as he's wondering why this guy can shrug off his blows while having ridiculous strength.

If he does, he's gonna use his arsenal off the bat for sure.

[StupidMoniker]

If he engages outside of a vehicle, he is dead.

[Kensei]

If it's the Terminator from the first movie, wasn't that the T-100, not the T-800? And if we're limited to Batman from "The Dark Knight," he didn't have the Bat yet but did have sufficient firepower with what he did have since the Tumbler could collapse an elevated railroad, the Batpod could blast through a huge pile of debris blocking a tunnel, and the T-100 could be blown apart by an ordinary pipe bomb. The T-100 also wasn't necessarily instantly lethal if not using weapons- it tossed Sarah's roommate's boyfriend around the room for a bit as he tried to fight it before it finally killed him, and he was only wearing his underwear. Batman's suit should protect him enough until he realizes this is not an ordinary opponent and retreats to either the Tumbler or the Batpod to engage his firepower. Now if we expand this to the Batman of "Dark Knight Rises," I would have to wonder what his EMP gun would do to the Terminator.

[Bluekey]

If it's the Terminator from the first movie, wasn't that the T-100, not the T-800? And if we're limited to Batman from "The Dark Knight," he didn't have the Bat yet but did have sufficient firepower with what he did have since the Tumbler could collapse an elevated railroad, the Batpod could blast through a huge pile of debris blocking a tunnel, and the T-100 could be blown apart by an ordinary pipe bomb. The T-100 also wasn't necessarily instantly lethal if not using weapons- it tossed Sarah's roommate's boyfriend around the room for a bit as he tried to fight it before it finally killed him, and he was only wearing his underwear. Batman's suit should protect him enough until he realizes this is not an ordinary opponent and retreats to either the Tumbler or the Batpod to engage his firepower. Now if we expand this to the Batman of "Dark Knight Rises," I would have to wonder what his EMP gun would do to the Terminator.

The Terminator is the T-800-series model 101. T-3 with the nuclear core was T-850.

A T-800 has with no PiS should effortlessly and instantly rip Batman apart at the waist just like he did to a malfunctioning T-600 in Salvation.

[SmileMan35]

Batman would definitely need his vehicle for massive fire power or else he'll be a dead man.

[MichaelC]

T-100, not the T-800? .

It was a facial-model 101, which is to say an Arniebot. But the robot part was a T-800.

[Ratmansaurus]

In the Nolanverse Batman movies Balebats is 99% of the time a dumb muscle thug who not only can't do anything more complex than punching people but is also easily tricked, outsmarted and outgambited multiple times by everyone in the movies; Balebats has at most only one or two smart guy feats per movie in each of the Nolanverse movies to the point that I think his very few smart guy feats are obvious blatant SMvsFL, because his very few smart guy feats contradict how Balebats is portrayed 99% of the time in the movies. In the first Terminator movie when the T-800 is tracking Sarah Connor the T-800 did this detective work without using any gadgets or money, while in the Nolanverse movies Balebats had gadgets and money doing all of the detective work for him, because Balebats is usually not even smart enough to do any detective work without money/gadgets doing all of that detective work for him. The T-800 is stronger, tougher and smarter than Balebats; T-800 stomps.

If it's the Terminator from the first movie, wasn't that the T-100, not the T-800? And if we're limited to Batman from "The Dark Knight," he didn't have the Bat yet but did have sufficient firepower with what he did have since the Tumbler could collapse an elevated railroad, the Batpod could blast through a huge pile of debris blocking a tunnel, and the T-100 could be blown apart by an ordinary pipe bomb. The T-100 also wasn't necessarily instantly lethal if not using weapons- it tossed Sarah's roommate's boyfriend around the room for a bit as he tried to fight it before it finally killed him, and he was only wearing his underwear. Batman's suit should protect him enough until he realizes this is not an ordinary opponent and retreats to either the Tumbler or the Batpod to engage his firepower. Now if we expand this to the Batman of "Dark Knight Rises," I would have to wonder what his EMP gun would do to the Terminator.

Most of those gadgets and weapons not only are not standard equipment but they are also owned by Lucius Fox, Balebats may have borrowed them from Lucius Fox and use them but Balebats doesn't own them, which is why in most of the fights that happened in the movies Balebats lacked most of them and usually used melee only, thus Balebats doesn't have them in Rumbles unless specified by the OP. The T-800 survived being hit by explosions twice, and the first explosion only damaged it's skin; Balebats is not fast enough to make the T-800 explode twice before the T-800 rips Balebats apart.

Baleman has a bad habit of not using gadgets

Probably because he doesn't own them, he usually only has them when he can borrow them from Lucius Fox.

[MikeP]

Most of those gadgets and weapons not only are not standard equipment but they are also owned by Lucius Fox, Balebats may have borrowed them from Lucius Fox and use them but Balebats doesn't own them, which is why in most of the fights that happened in the movies Balebats lacked most of them and usually used melee only, thus Balebats doesn't have them in Rumbles unless specified by the OP. The T-800 survived being hit by explosions twice, and the first explosion only damaged it's skin; Balebats is not fast enough to make the T-800 explode twice before the T-800 rips Balebats apart.

Probably because he doesn't own them, he usually only has them when he can borrow them from Lucius Fox.

Er, you kinda have it backward. He does own all that equipment. It is WayneCorp property, and he owns WayneCorp. Fox only supplied him with it because he was demoted to that department.

As for the fight, if Batman survives his first encounter, likely he will figure it out quickly that this thing isn't human. The T-800 has a habit of throwing people around like ragdolls instead of going directly for the kill, so it could go either way.

[Guy1]

In the first Terminator movie when the T-800 is tracking Sarah Connor the T-800 did this detective work without using any gadgets or money
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Admittedly, this did involve going door to door and shooting every Sarah Connor he found.

[Captain Jibberish]

The T-100 also wasn't necessarily instantly lethal if not using weapons- it tossed Sarah's roommate's boyfriend around the room for a bit as he tried to fight it before it finally killed him, and he was only wearing his underwear.

The Terminator instantly tore the heart out of a punk at the beginning of the movie, so I'd say his fight against the roommate's boyfriend isn't exactly a high showing. Same with the pipebomb, considering The Terminator survived a gas tanker explosion with minimal damage to it's endoskeleton.

[Iron_Twister]

Admittedly, this did involve going door to door and shooting every Sarah Connor he found.

Yep, I just have the feeling he goes to a state, look up all the Sarah Connors in a phone book, and shoots every one of the poor woman with that name and anyone who happens to be in the way. Rinse and repeat...Until he runs out of bullets so he needs a detour to the local gun to restock and kill the poor owner, then it's back to rinse and repeat.

But he still, at least he looked them up!

[Ratmansaurus]

Er, you kinda have it backward. He does own all that equipment. It is WayneCorp property, and he owns WayneCorp. Fox only supplied him with it because he was demoted to that department.

IIRC one of the plot points of Batman Begins is that Bale Bruce doesn't own WayneCorp anymore, he was however able to regain access (but not ownership) to WayneCorp's resources and wealth through giving the company to Lucius Fox, thus WayneCorp's tech has been owned by Lucius Fox since the end of the Batman Begins movie. In the Dark Knight Rises Bale Bruce loses access to WayneCorp again and also loses his fortune IIRC.

[Jonathan]

IIRC one of the plot points of Batman Begins is that Bale Bruce doesn't own WayneCorp anymore, he was however able to regain access (but not ownership) to WayneCorp's resources and wealth through giving the company to Lucius Fox, thus WayneCorp's tech has been owned by Lucius Fox since the end of the Batman Begins movie. In the Dark Knight Rises Bale Bruce loses access to WayneCorp again and also loses his fortune IIRC.

Then you remember wrong. By the end of Begins Bruce had gained control of Waynecorps by buying the majority of stocks and stuff when the corporation went public. Then he appointed Fox as the company president. That was the whole "didn't you get the memo" thing. Wayne owns(most) of Waynecorps, but Fox (is allowed to)runs the company BECAUSE BRUCE LET HIM.

In the end the decisions were Bruce's, and that's essentially why he had to lose the company as of Rises. As one could see in that movie, Fox was clearly answerable to Bruce, though he had good reason why Waynecorps problems weren't his fault.

Anyways, as to the debate, the idea that Wayne/Batman didn't use smarts in the DK Trilogy is just ridiculous. But alas, I know I cant win that one as the Bale Batman hate is just ridiculously strong on this forum. I guess the movies got too popular/successful/mainstream to be regarded as cool on here.