Yes, Ultimate Hulk is a cannibal. He is also a rapist and murderer, because that's the kind of thing superheroes do in the Ultimate universe. One of the fun things about it, in a weird way.
And no, she is as related to the Hulk as you are to your biological father. They obviously don't have a dad/daughter relationship, but biologically he's definitely her father. And it would be exactly the same as X-Man; both are made from the genetics of two people, just like anyone else.
I don't know why Lyra didn't intervene in the many deaths Johnny Storm went through in the Negative Zone. She could have shape changed into an insect like the inhabitants and been able to rescue Johnny out of there?
It's a common mistake with their names so close. Anyway, Lyra did meet Johnny when she was with the Frightful Four to abduct Reed; he burned off her clothes (not a mistake from his perspective); she knocked him silly, and stole his red Jim Hammond homage costume. Wonder if she ever returned it to him.
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That is literally the same thing as this. Superboy is just like anyone else, in that his DNA is made up of the combination of two other people's. (Ignoring the stupidity about his parentage in the New 52.) Obviously the difference is that one of his parents isn't human at all, but still. His biological parents are Superman and Lex Luthor. Lara's biological parents are the Hulk and Thundra. The only difference breeding-wise between them and naturally born people is that there was no sex involved.
The common Lyra/Lyja confusion combined with the existence of another similarly named, longstanding villainess (Llyra...also green) makes me wish tptb would have named She-Hulk Jr something else. Like GAMMA! 😊
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Lyra and Thundra together in Squadrom Supreme 15 in Weirdworld
Since I can't find another topic relating to the character and I don't want to start a new one, I'm reluctantly bumping this to ask a question:
Since Lyra has been largely AWOL since Secret Wars, this would actually be a good opportunity for Marvel to bring Lyra back with a new background. IMO, the background she currently has is so convoluted it makes people's heads spin and her personality is a mixture of stone-cold and borderline-villainous (she actually HAS been a villain).
So how would you reboot her without her loads of baggage and making her someone Marvel can count on? Or, alternatively, how would you turn her baggage into a positive instead of a negative?
IMO, I would reboot her as a straight-up daughter of Hulk and Thundra, without the alternate dimension/clone stuff. Early on in the Hulk's existence, Thundra sensed an opportunity to get the ultimate warrior and seduced Bruce or the Hulk (or BOTH). This would be easier than you'd expect, as the Hulk would want a "Hulk friend", and Bruce would be looking for all the help he can get while evading the military. Then, Thundra experiments on the resulting fetus to ensure a girl, blah blah blah genetic engineering, and out comes Lyra.
Bruce/Hulk is not happy about being taken advantage of and having a secret daughter that Thundra intends to raise into a villain. Bruce/Hulk take custody of Lyra from Thundra when she's still young, and either raise Lyra on their own or hand Lyra to Jennifer to raise/hide away from Thundra. Thundra, subsequently, has never stopped trying to find Lyra so she can fulfill her destiny of taking back control of Thundra's alternate-dimension empire.
Meanwhile, Lyra has grown up as an intelligent, down-to-earth girl with a low-key, sardonic sense of humor, either due to spending so much time with Bruce and his battles, or due to having to live under the roof of quirky Jennifer. This provides a starting point for a likable character to emerge and come unto her own as a true legacy character to both Bruce and Thundra. A girl who is torn between two parents, two agendas, who wants to be a hero but also treasures her privacy and wants nothing to do with fulfilling some grand design.
Also, a quick example of what this Lyra might look like. Hotlinking due to size.
But that's just me. How would any of you try to start Lyra over so she'd actually have a fair shot at succeeding this time?
Last edited by macattack; 08-01-2017 at 09:32 AM.