The top 75 Superman characters! =)

[L.R Johansson]

Since there's a Batman-feature on the site, I figure we need one of these too! =)

So, friends, time to get the list together! I figure it shouldn't be too difficult to pick 75 characters... but alas, perhaps the difficulty will be in balancing between villains and friends.

But I think we should give it a try!

Here, I'll start the list, and you guys can help me fill it out.

Friends and allies
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1. Lois Lane
2. Jimmy Olsen
3 Krypto
4 Supergirl
5 Lana Lang
6 Martha "Ma" Kent
7 Jonathan "Pa" Kent
8 Jor-El
9 Lara
10 Perry White
11 BATMAN
12 WONDER WOMAN
13 Steel
14 Superboy ( Kon-El)
15 George Taylor
16 Matrix / Linda Danvers
17 Pete Ross
18 Cat Grant
19 Professor Emil Hamilton
20 Mon-El Steve Lombard
21 Lori Lemaris
22 Lucy Lane
23 Jose Delgado (Gangbuster)
24 Guardian
25 Maggie Sawyer
26 Ron Troupe
27 The Newsboy Legion
28 Vartox
29 Lightning Lad
30 Saturn Girl
31 Cosmic-Boy
32 Brainiac-5
33 Dan "Terrible" Turpin
34 Morgan Edge
35 Eradicator
36 Comet the Super-horse
37 Bibbo Bibbowski
38 Inspector Henderson
40 Shay Veritas


Foes
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41 Lex Luthor
42 DarkSeid
43 Brainiac
44 Bizarro
45 Doomsday
46 Mr Mxyzptlk
47 Zod
48 Cyborg Superman
49 Mongul
50 Faora Hu-Ul
51 Parasite
52 Metallo
53 Toyman
54 Prankster
55 Vyndktvx ( provocative, I know, but he's so darn good.)
56 Maxima
57 Ultra-Humanite
58 Silver Banshee
59 Titano the SUPER-Ape
60 Solaris - the tyrant sun
61 Sam Lane
62 Imperiex
63 Ultraman
64 Bruno Mannheim & Intergang
65 Manchester Black
66 Satanus ( I'd argue C.W Saturn is a better character, but he has only ONE appearance.)
67 Jax-Ur
68 Kryptonite Man
69 Livewire
70 The Superman Revenge Squad
71 The Composite Superman (Joe Meach)
72 Neutron
73 Atomic Skull
74 Terra-Man
75 Ultra-Sphinx


The basic idea is that we then vote on the individual positions of the characters! =)

[Pinsir]

> Supergirl (New 52)
> Supergirl (Silver Age)
> Superman
> Lex Luthor
> Banshee (New 52l)
> Mon-el
> Cosmic Queen
> Cosmic GRRRL
> Comet the Superhorse
> Lois Lane (Golden Age)
> Jimmy Olsen (wearing a dress)
> Zod (MoS)
> Zod (Superman II)
> Faora (MoS)

[friendly-fire-press]

Dr Shay Veritas should probably be somewhere in the allies list ... maybe around 18th or 19th?

maybe have Atomic Skull somewhere in the sixties on the villains list

[L.R Johansson]

Got a bit of a tricky question here... do you guys vaguer Eradicator and Morgan Edge should be listed as allies or foes...? IMHO, they have just as often been foes as allies, these gray-scale highly revamped characters.

Eradicator is probably the most likely to be listed as ally tho'.

> Supergirl (New 52)
> Supergirl (Silver Age)
> Superman
> Lex Luthor
> Banshee (New 52l)
> Mon-el
> Cosmic Queen
> Cosmic GRRRL
> Comet the Superhorse
> Lois Lane (Golden Age)
> Jimmy Olsen (wearing a dress)
> Zod (MoS)
> Zod (Superman II)
> Faora (MoS)

Ah' dunno'... do the Batman-list really make these version-distinctions? I don't think it does, so no duplicates. Seems sensible to me as well.

Comet the Super-horse, and the ape, I probably need to add as well, but I imagine they'd be ranked low, but they do belong on the list.

How is everybody's feelings on Ron Troupe btw? Does he belong? IMHO, he's kind of take it or lose it, since even tho' I've read hundreds of issues of Superman-comics, from various eras, I had completely forgotten about him. He seems kind-of throw-away.

Dr Shay Veritas should probably be somewhere in the allies list ... maybe around 18th or 19th?

maybe have Atomic Skull somewhere in the sixties on the villains list

Shay Veritas have been making a big splash lately, true. She's so new tho', so probably somewhere low on the allies list, but I'll add her. Atomic Skull is kind-of a mainstay, albit not exactly a fan-favourite. He's just kind of... there. But I'll add him. ^^

[Adekis]

I'm a real big fan of Ron Troupe, personally. Think it's a shame he's so oft forgotten.

Speaking of oft-forgotten Daily Planet workers, can we move Steve Lombard to the "Enemies" list?

I jest, I jest!

[Pinsir]

Ah' dunno'... do the Batman-list really make these version-distinctions? I don't think it does, so no duplicates. Seems sensible to me as well.

Comet the Super-horse, and the ape, I probably need to add as well, but I imagine they'd be ranked low, but they do belong on the list.

My Batman list would probably include three or more Poison Ivy's

[Miraclo__Pill]

If it was up to me, I'd made a difference between Kara Zor-El and Linda "Matrix" Danvers. They both are Supergirl but two completely different characters...


Big omissions to me are Inspector Henderson, Lara and Jor El, Sam and Lucy Lane, tho' this last one doesn't really make a difference. I'll put the newsboys legion somewhere. And how can a list of Supes allies be complete without the Legion of Superheroes?

[friendly-fire-press]

Shay Veritas have been making a big splash lately, true. She's so new tho', so probably somewhere low on the allies list, but I'll add her. Atomic Skull is kind-of a mainstay, albit not exactly a fan-favourite. He's just kind of... there. But I'll add him. ^^

Good point on both counts ... And, speaking of villains, maybe add The Prankster somewhere ...?

[L.R Johansson]

Friends... we could use some more villains on this list. Any suggestions?

If it was up to me, I'd made a difference between Kara Zor-El and Linda "Matrix" Danvers. They both are Supergirl but two completely different characters...

Big omissions to me are Inspector Henderson, Lara and Jor El, Sam and Lucy Lane, tho' this last one doesn't really make a difference. I'll put the newsboys legion somewhere. And how can a list of Supes allies be complete without the Legion of Superheroes?

That's a good suggestion, actually, the two completely different Supergirls. I'll add her as Matrix/Linda Danvers. Hmm, did the Batman-list add Batman's parents? Not sure that it did... Newsboy Legion tho', absolutely. Lucy Lane too. Sam Lane, dunno'... Anybody else figure he should be added? The question then is... on the allies or Foes list? I'm thinkin' foe, mostly.

The Legion... yeah, they should be added. But HOW?? I can't add an entire team, can I? I mean, surely, the batman-list did not include the Outsiders in one entire entry, right? Hmm... Maybe I ought to add 'em anyway. Let GOD sort 'em out!

Good point on both counts ... And, speaking of villains, maybe add The Prankster somewhere ...?

Sure. The Prankster has his place in the mythology. Pretty low on the list tho', imho.

[friendly-fire-press]

Sure. The Prankster has his place in the mythology. Pretty low on the list tho', imho.

True. Maybe around 66 or 65?

[Jim Kelly]

Clark Kent
Jor-El
Lara Lor-Van
Vartox
J. Wilbur Wolfingham
Sgt. Casey
Inspector Henderson
Professor Potter
Grax
Van-Zee
Amalak
Gregory Reed
Johnny Nevada
Lyla Lerrol
George Taylor
Captain Strong
Strange Visitor
Kristin Wells (Superwoman)
Lewis Lang
Titano the Super-Ape
The Composite Superman (Joe Meach)
Sunshine Superman
Josh Coyle
Dr. Jenet Klyburn
The Alpha Centurion
Jose Delgado (Gangbuster)

[L.R Johansson]

I've made tons and tons of updates to the list, fella's! =) The Allies list is pretty much filled up... For the moment - we might need a bit of debate as to whom of the characters that deserve to be on there, and who should go.

The VILLAINS-list is still short about 5 or so names tho... any suggestions?

True. Maybe around 66 or 65?

Absolutely! I actually forgot to add him when you suggested him originally ( d'oh! ) 0_0 , but now he's up there.

Clark Kent
Jor-El
Lara Lor-Van
Vartox
J. Wilbur Wolfingham
Sgt. Casey
Inspector Henderson
Professor Potter
Grax
Van-Zee
Amalak
Gregory Reed
Johnny Nevada
Lyla Lerrol
George Taylor
Captain Strong
Strange Visitor
Kristin Wells (Superwoman)
Lewis Lang
Titano the Super-Ape
The Composite Superman (Joe Meach)
Sunshine Superman
Josh Coyle
Dr. Jenet Klyburn
The Alpha Centurion
Jose Delgado (Gangbuster)

Tons of great suggestions! =) The friends-list is almost full tho'... which reminds me - since Superman's villains doesn't have the same focus as Batman's, but rather his friends-gallery does, should Superman REVERSE THE RATIO, aka, should I list 40 friends, instead of 40 foes?

This actually seems plausible, since I'm feeling much more inclined to add friends than foes on this list, and so does everybody else, it seems.

I just thought of somebody... how about DUBBILEX? He was a pretty major recurring character there, in the post-crisis era.