Jaws vs Jaws

[MichaelC]

Bond villain vs shark. Fight takes place in a special arena that is water to shark Jaws and land to Bond Jaws. That is to say, Bond Jaws see's a shark flying through the air, and shark Jaws see's a man standing on the bottom of the ocean. who wins?

[T51R]

Jaws wins.

[TheLastDalek]

Witch version of the shark is it?

If it's the one from revenge then Bond Jaws pokes him and he explodes

[Sharpandpointies]

Bond Jaws, once he gets his hands around Shark Jaws. The dude's feats are insane.

[Kensei]

So Bond Jaws suffers none of the effects of being underwater- no air, slower movement, etc? Ok, but shark Jaws still wins. He is a 25-foot long 3-ton great white shark for god's sake, and would bite Bond Jaws in half in seconds. Bond Jaws might be able to bite through metal but he isn't nearly fast enough to win this, and he might rip a few pieces of the fins or tail off but when it comes to the vital areas there is too much large flat surface area for him to wrap his teeth around.

[big_adventure]

Bond Jaws picks up a multi-ton solid-steel cable-car wheel. He falls off of thousand-foot-high waterfalls with no mark. He gets run into by a van and stops the van. He goes off of high cliffs in a car that explodes, and dusts off his suit. He survives the collapse of a sea-floor evil lair by swimming out of it. And, you know, falls from freaking orbit. In his one encounter with an admittedly-much-smaller great white shark, he kills it trivially.

[Howard Allan]

Bond Jaws picks up a multi-ton solid-steel cable-car wheel. He falls off of thousand-foot-high waterfalls with no mark. He gets run into by a van and stops the van. He goes off of high cliffs in a car that explodes, and dusts off his suit. He survives the collapse of a sea-floor evil lair by swimming out of it. And, you know, falls from freaking orbit. In his one encounter with an admittedly-much-smaller great white shark, he kills it trivially.

He only moved the wheel with the help of the female who would go on to be his girlfriend. He couldn't get it off without her help.

[Nik Hasta]

He only moved the wheel with the help of the female who would go on to be his girlfriend. He couldn't get it off without her help.

So... what about the other feats that put him on the level of shrugging everything Jaws tried to do to him?

[Powerboy]

He only moved the wheel with the help of the female who would go on to be his girlfriend. He couldn't get it off without her help.

Because he was momentarily stunned after surviving the massive fall. That doesn't negate all the other feats. In a watery environment where his movements were limited, he somehow survived against the shark, clamped onto it with his bare hands and bit it to death. In this scenario, he has his full land movement. Bond Jaws survived things worse than what blew the movie "Jaws" shark to bits. Most likely, he clamps on and literally bites his way inside of it.

[Kensei]

I guess I change my vote based on the feats for Bond Jaws recounted here, since it's been many years since I've seen those old Bond movies and the memory fades. I didn't realize those movies incorporated such cartoon level action at times, in stories that were supposed to take place in the real world. If the guy was that strong it's inconceivable that Bond ever beat or survived him.

Btw I do have fond memories of Richard Kiel playing two different antagonists on "Kolchak: The Night Stalker" since I have the series on VHS. He played an immortal Native American sorceror and a moss-covered swamp creature.

[big_adventure]

Bond villain henchmen are often somewhat superhuman - at least, they were back in the day (think of Oddjob crushing a golf ball and throwing his hat to behead a marble statue). And Jaws was by far the most exaggerated. He's probably why they toned that down later.

They have gone more with tech and trickery since, with Bond himself being pretty superhuman (certainly Craig and Brosnan).

Moore only ever "dealt with" Jaws thanks to trickery or environment. The electromagnet to pick him up and drop him in the shark tank, the cable-car crash, the boat-off-a-waterfall, the exploding car off a cliff, the lamp to electrocute his metal teeth. Anytime he challenged him physically he was humiliated, having his punches outright no-sold despite their usual one-punchiness, getting ragdolled by casual gestures, having his bullet caught in the guy's teeth once, etc. The only exception was a well-placed kick in the crotch, which served to slow Jaws down for a couple of seconds once. Outside of that, Jaws liked to do the horror-movie villain walk, just slowly and inexorably strolling towards his intended victim, and this gave Bond the time to get away a couple of times.

[Stigmazilla]

Bond villain henchmen are often somewhat superhuman - at least, they were back in the day (think of Oddjob crushing a golf ball and throwing his hat to behead a marble statue). And Jaws was by far the most exaggerated. He's probably why they toned that down later.

They have gone more with tech and trickery since, with Bond himself being pretty superhuman (certainly Craig and Brosnan).

Moore only ever "dealt with" Jaws thanks to trickery or environment. The electromagnet to pick him up and drop him in the shark tank, the cable-car crash, the boat-off-a-waterfall, the exploding car off a cliff, the lamp to electrocute his metal teeth. Anytime he challenged him physically he was humiliated, having his punches outright no-sold despite their usual one-punchiness, getting ragdolled by casual gestures, having his bullet caught in the guy's teeth once, etc. The only exception was a well-placed kick in the crotch, which served to slow Jaws down for a couple of seconds once. Outside of that, Jaws liked to do the horror-movie villain walk, just slowly and inexorably strolling towards his intended victim, and this gave Bond the time to get away a couple of times.

How was Craig super human

[MichaelC]

How was Craig super human

Yeah, humans get shot with military-grade rifles, fall into the water, escape under their own power, and recovery fully without medical aid all the time.

[big_adventure]

On top of that, the majority of his Parkour stuff is pretty superhuman, he's got superhuman swimming from Venice, etc.

[Nik Hasta]

On top of that, the majority of his Parkour stuff is pretty superhuman, he's got superhuman swimming from Venice, etc.

Also, his superhuman ability not to portray any kind of emotion on screen is pretty crazy. Guy blends in really well if you put him in a room full of antique chairs, just disappears into the background.

It's like magic.