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    All 8 ongoing marvel series made it to 50. Thank you marvel. Go ahead with Secret Wars. Excelsior!

    The Fantastic Four 1961-2011
    The Incredible Hulk 1962-2012
    The Mighty Thor 1962-2012
    The Amazing Spider-Man 1962-2012 actually 45 since the Mephistoverse came into being as of 2008
    The Invincible Iron Man 1963-2013
    Avengers : earth's mightiest heroes 1963-2013
    The Uncanny X-Men 1963-2013
    Daredevil : the man without fear! 1964-2014 Thank you also marvel comics that Captain America made it to 50 1964-2014


    I'd also like to thank marvel comics that Sub-Mariner and Human Torch made it to 75 1939-2014

    Grateful that last year I got to celebrate the 40th anniversaries of the debut of;

    Punisher 1974-2014
    Iron Fist 1974-2014
    Deathlok 1974-2014
    Wolverine 1974-2014

    This year I am looking forward to celebrate the 40th anniversaries of the debut of;

    Storm
    Colossus
    Nightcrawler
    Moon Knight

    Even though I have not liked the last 10 years of the 616 marvel comics very much, I appreciate the courtesy of marvel comics to wait with Secret Wars after their titles from the Marvel Age of Comics reached their 50th anniversary and that their company reached it's 75th anniversary.
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    Some of them survived.

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    I take it you're ignoring the Liefeld glitches and stuff like that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    The Fantastic Four 1961-2011
    The Incredible Hulk 1962-2012
    The Mighty Thor 1962-2012
    The Amazing Spider-Man 1962-2012 actually 45 since the Mephistoverse came into being as of 2008
    The Invincible Iron Man 1963-2013
    Avengers : earth's mightiest heroes 1963-2013
    The Uncanny X-Men 1963-2013
    Daredevil : the man without fear! 1964-2014 Thank you also marvel comics that Captain America made it to 50 1964-2014


    I'd also like to thank marvel comics that Sub-Mariner and Human Torch made it to 75 1939-2014

    Grateful that last year I got to celebrate the 40th anniversaries of the debut of;

    Punisher 1974-2014
    Iron Fist 1974-2014
    Deathlok 1974-2014
    Wolverine 1974-2014

    This year I am looking forward to celebrate the 40th anniversaries of the debut of;

    Storm
    Colossus
    Nightcrawler
    Moon Knight

    Even though I have not liked the last 10 years of the 616 marvel comics very much, I appreciate the courtesy of marvel comics to wait with Secret Wars after their titles from the Marvel Age of Comics reached their 50th anniversary and that their company reached it's 75th anniversary.
    Almost all the series you listed have been cancelled at least once. None of them had unbroken runs. For example, X-Men was cancelled after issue 66. It came back as a reprint book 9 months later. The first Hulk comic lasted for six issues. And Iron Man didn't get his own book until 1968. Same thing with Silver Age Captain America.

    Just because their book may be cancelled, doesn't mean they no longer exist. Or they're not coming back. Or anniversaries can't be celebrated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MajorHoy View Post
    I take it you're ignoring the Liefeld glitches and stuff like that?
    We can overlook at least the Onslaught Reborn mini as it occurred concurrent to 616 and didn't displace it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emac1790 View Post
    Almost all the series you listed have been cancelled at least once. None of them had unbroken runs. For example, X-Men was cancelled after issue 66. It came back as a reprint book 9 months later. The first Hulk comic lasted for six issues. And Iron Man didn't get his own book until 1968. Same thing with Silver Age Captain America.

    Just because their book may be cancelled, doesn't mean they no longer exist. Or they're not coming back. Or anniversaries can't be celebrated.
    I celebrate the anniversaries of 616 marvel comics and characters.

    Whatever marvel universe, earth and characters will come into being as a result of Secret wars, is to me NOT 616 and thus I cannot celebrate anniversaries anymore.

    2015 is to me the last year I can celebrate anniversaries of 616 marvel comics and characters
    Examples ;
    616 Steve Rogers 1941-2016 does NOT count to me because the Steve Rogers in 2016 is to me NOT 616 Steve Rogers
    616 Nova 1976-2016 does NOT count to me because the Richard Rider in 2016 is to me NOT 616 Richard Rider
    616 Ms. Marvel 1977-2017 does NOT count to me because Carol Danvers in 2017 is to me NOT 616 Carol Danvers
    616 Jessica Drew 1977-2017 does NOT count to me because the Jessica Drew in 2017 is to me NOT 616 Jessica Drew

    I CAN celebrate the 35th anniversary of the She-Hulk, Emma Frost, Kitty Pryde and Dazzler 1980-2015 since the 616 marvel universe is still around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    I celebrate the anniversaries of 616 marvel comics and characters.

    Whatever marvel universe, earth and characters will come into being as a result of Secret wars, is to me NOT 616 and thus I cannot celebrate anniversaries anymore.

    2015 is to me the last year I can celebrate anniversaries of 616 marvel comics and characters
    Examples ;
    616 Steve Rogers 1941-2016 does NOT count to me because the Steve Rogers in 2016 is to me NOT 616 Steve Rogers
    616 Nova 1976-2016 does NOT count to me because the Richard Rider in 2016 is to me NOT 616 Richard Rider
    616 Ms. Marvel 1977-2017 does NOT count to me because Carol Danvers in 2017 is to me NOT 616 Carol Danvers
    616 Jessica Drew 1977-2017 does NOT count to me because the Jessica Drew in 2017 is to me NOT 616 Jessica Drew.
    Amazing how you already know these things when we haven't even read the first issue of Secret Wars.
    So, tell me: who won the U.S. Presidential election in November of 2016?

    (In other words . . . you don't publish a person's obituary before they are officially dead.)

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    Problem is that according to the OP's strict guidelines, most of these characters wouldn't be 616 because of previous cosmic shenanigans anyway. So it's just grumbling for grumbling's sake.

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    I'm just glad they finally gave us a Storm ongoing solo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    I celebrate the anniversaries of 616 marvel comics and characters.

    Whatever marvel universe, earth and characters will come into being as a result of Secret wars, is to me NOT 616 and thus I cannot celebrate anniversaries anymore.

    2015 is to me the last year I can celebrate anniversaries of 616 marvel comics and characters
    Examples ;
    616 Steve Rogers 1941-2016 does NOT count to me because the Steve Rogers in 2016 is to me NOT 616 Steve Rogers
    616 Nova 1976-2016 does NOT count to me because the Richard Rider in 2016 is to me NOT 616 Richard Rider
    616 Ms. Marvel 1977-2017 does NOT count to me because Carol Danvers in 2017 is to me NOT 616 Carol Danvers
    616 Jessica Drew 1977-2017 does NOT count to me because the Jessica Drew in 2017 is to me NOT 616 Jessica Drew

    I CAN celebrate the 35th anniversary of the She-Hulk, Emma Frost, Kitty Pryde and Dazzler 1980-2015 since the 616 marvel universe is still around.
    You still don't make any sense. No matter what you think, all these characters are part of the mainstream Marvel Universe AKA 616.

    I think you take this stuff way too seriously and you're reading into things that are not there.

    The best thing we can all do is wait until Secret Wars comes out and is finished before we start writing "RIP Marvel".
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    Yeah, this apocalyptic thinking has me puzzled. Changes like this happen all the time. Wild new directions, back to basics approaches, retcons, new characters picking up old legacies... the list is endless. For example, I don't much connection between the Avengers pre-Disassembled and post-Dissembled, so I don't see how anyone could count that as one incarnation, even setting aside things like Heroes Reborn or the usual changes in approach each new creative team would bring. The pre-revamp X-Men and the Wein/Claremont version and the Morrison version all the same thing? Not to my thinking. And that's a good thing.

    The idea of a single Marvel universe was always sort of an artificial construct anyway brought on by Roy Thomas' need to explain inconsistancies. (And the 616 designation was an in-joke at Marvel's expense.) As Steven Grant pointed out in a great essay at CBR years ago, continuity wasn't a priority in the formative years of Marvel-- still Marvel's most wildly creative period-- and a lot of the creativity got sucked out when everything had to fit into an overall puzzle. At the point when the universe becomes more important than the stories told within it, I think there's a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emac1790 View Post
    You still don't make any sense. No matter what you think, all these characters are part of the mainstream Marvel Universe AKA 616.

    I think you take this stuff way too seriously and you're reading into things that are not there.

    The best thing we can all do is wait until Secret Wars comes out and is finished before we start writing "RIP Marvel".
    This year 2015 is the last year for mainstream 616.
    Whatever marvel universe, earth and characters will come into being as a result of Secret wars, is NOT the actual mainstream 616 but will have some things left over from mainstream 616. With 'things' I mean 616 Manhattan(possible) and random 616 characters

    I am saying RIP to the actual complete mainstream 616 marvel universe since when Secret Wars hits I only have a chunk ; 616 Manhattan

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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    This year 2015 is the last year for mainstream 616.
    Whatever marvel universe, earth and characters will come into being as a result of Secret wars, is NOT the actual mainstream 616 but will have some things left over from mainstream 616. With 'things' I mean 616 Manhattan(possible) and random 616 characters

    I am saying RIP to the actual complete mainstream 616 marvel universe since when Secret Wars hits I only have a chunk ; 616 Manhattan
    Hell, in that case, the original Marvel Universe ended as soon as they introduced the sliding time scale crap and
    * the Fantastic Four didn't take their altering space flight because they didn't want "the Commies to beat" the U.S.A. to a manned spaceflight
    * Iron Man didn't have his origin take place in Viet Nam
    * Captain America wasn't found and defrosted until well-after President Nixon and Watergate
    and many, many others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 616MarvelYear is LeapYear View Post
    This year 2015 is the last year for mainstream 616.
    Whatever marvel universe, earth and characters will come into being as a result of Secret wars, is NOT the actual mainstream 616 but will have some things left over from mainstream 616. With 'things' I mean 616 Manhattan(possible) and random 616 characters

    I am saying RIP to the actual complete mainstream 616 marvel universe since when Secret Wars hits I only have a chunk ; 616 Manhattan
    Basically saying the same thing with a few words added in doesn't make your theory stronger.

    As for your last line, I am saying RIP to the actual complete mainstream 616 marvel universe since when Secret Wars hits I only have a chunk ; 616 Manhattan, It's still, IMO, nonsense. The book has not even come out yet. You don't know what's going to happen. Yes, the book starts with just mainstream Marvel Manhattan, we don't know how it ends.
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    Time runs out ends with Earth 616 destroyed.

    But the marvel earth has been destroyed multiple times, sise neg destroyed it and brought it back the same.

    I don't think it's coming back....but a new earth could replace it.

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