"We're the same thing, you and I. We're both lies that eventually became the truth." Lara Notsil, Star Wars: X-Wing: Solo Command, Aaron Allston
"All that is not eternal is eternally out of date." C. S. Lewis, The Four Loves
"There's room in our line of work for hope, too." Stephanie Brown
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That was the point though. To try to present the character differently then what we have seen with them before. They weren’t presenting a 30 year old Oracle anymore, but a 21 year old modern day Batgirl.
Last edited by Godlike13; 08-18-2018 at 01:18 AM.
Drinking a lot and hooking up with randoms ain't a sensible thing by any means. The amount of money I spent on those nights....
Hey doesn't mean a character can't have changes. Didn't erase what she did beforehand, it's just a different style.
That's perfectly fair.
I am not a fan of the dark, grim Batgirl but as long as people are enjoying stuff, it's cool.
Last edited by Vinsanity; 08-18-2018 at 03:16 AM.
"We're the same thing, you and I. We're both lies that eventually became the truth." Lara Notsil, Star Wars: X-Wing: Solo Command, Aaron Allston
"All that is not eternal is eternally out of date." C. S. Lewis, The Four Loves
"There's room in our line of work for hope, too." Stephanie Brown
Stephanie Brown Wiki, My Batman Universe Reviews, Stephanie Brown Discord
Oh I never said you were. I'm just saying that there are so many different versions of a character you can get. As long as the character does well, even if it doesn't suit my tastes, I'm cool with if since others can enjoy it.
On the sensible and mature part, alcohol makes you do some weird things. I think I used to have a road sign somewhere in my house.
One thing I did observe is that both Dick and Babs have the same view of relationships. I mean Dick has quite a few love interests but he had intentions to pursue something deeper, and with Babs she doesn't waste her time with relationships that don't go anywhere. Which is why Burnside annoyed me. I don't mind the amount of love interests to a degree, but it was the lack of quality of love interests. I can't recall anyone's name except Luke and that's because he's previously established as his own character. If I can't remember their names then I don't think the writers served Barbara's story. I'm a big fan of comicbook romance, which is why I've been attached to the more stable relationships of Arthur and Mera and more recently Dinah and Ollie in Percy's run, so to see that trope in my favorite genre being underdeveloped is a bit deflating.
Also I don't mind Babs drinking or just being a bit more carefree in general, but I need to recognize her when they do so. I don't what to retrain my perspective of character to suit dull writing.
Anyways, Scott is off to a good start. I look forward to more Jim and more family drama. I'm also interested to see the new costume in action.
There are definitely many versions of characters. My argument with regards to Burnside is, except for the relaunches (first arc or so), the concept hasn't really held enough of an audience to convince me that Babs is doing well in that iteration.
I've always seen Babs as the influencer/persuader in her group of friends, rather than the reverse. I mean, one of my favorite plotlines in Birds of Prey, where Babs tries to control Helena's life and convince her that killing is wrong, is all about her being very much an initiator, to the point of slipping into manipulation. And then her redemption and healing of her relationship with Helena is so great.
"We're the same thing, you and I. We're both lies that eventually became the truth." Lara Notsil, Star Wars: X-Wing: Solo Command, Aaron Allston
"All that is not eternal is eternally out of date." C. S. Lewis, The Four Loves
"There's room in our line of work for hope, too." Stephanie Brown
Stephanie Brown Wiki, My Batman Universe Reviews, Stephanie Brown Discord
From the November solicitations...love this!
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