I think I remember an old Jim Lee card saying Kurt was like 6'2 or something. I dont think he was as tall pre Excalibur, he was about average but you could say he was still growing when he went to Excalibur since he was about 21-22 when that group started.
Right on all counts. Remy is usually listed as 6'1", 180ish, as opposed to the 6'3" Cyclops, who was a beanpole 175 back in the day but bulked up to 195 after Jim Lee got a hold of him (which is why it was troubling to see Cyke looking so haggard in "AvX").
Wolverine was described as 5'5" in his first appearance, which should have been canon (unless they were counting his boot treads). 5'3" comes across as a little too short, but I won't argue with it. It's cool that the shortest guy on the team is the toughest scrapper. Marvel missed an opportunity to make him taller, though, during the whole Apocalypse and "The Twelve" storyline. Apocalypse got the adamantium he implanted in Logan from Sabretooth ... it would have been relatively plausible to say Apocalypse used some of the surplus metal to stretch Logan a bit, to, say, 5'7" (which would have accounted for him being taller than Jean in Ethan Van Sciver's "New X-Men" issues), buuuuut nope. Widdle Wolvie remains the norm.
Cable is portrayed almost as inconsistently as Wolverine. He's always been listed as 6'8" on Marvel's stat sheets, but these days most artists tend to draw him as 6'5" tops.
The 5'8" Iceman was as tall as the 6' Havok during Milligan and Larroca's run. I've wondered if maybe Iceman grew a bit between the O5 days and now. It's conceivable he might be 5'10" as a 25-ish adult.
Toad is one of few characters to legitimately gain height. He was a fat 5'8" back in the day, but he slimmed down in the '90s and then mutated into a more svelte 5'9" in the 2000s.
Nightcrawler is also 5'9". He was drawn wayyyyyy too tall in the '90s "Excalibur" books.
(The Spider-Man forum could use a thread like this. I don't care what the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe says--Steve Ditko consistently drew Doctor Octopus as several inches taller than a 5'10" Spider-Man. He was stocky, not stumpy--at least 6'1")
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The exact height of a character has always depended on the time and what was happening to that character. Originally, Jean was 5'4 (short with long legs), and then 5'6. She was drawn as a taller woman during her fashion model days, and then after the X-movies she was depicted as a tall woman. In X-men Evolution, Jean's official height is 5'10. In modern times, she was often drawn to be Emma's nemesis, = in height in the panels. I try not to focus on exact height because it will probably change anyway. One can also argue that as Phoenix with her matter manipulation powers, Jean can be any height she chooses. So for Jean I consider her a tall woman, although not as tall as someone like Storm who is 5'11''. I do find it funny that Psylocke's Asian body just happened to be the same height as her caucasian body considering most Asian women are not that all for the most part. Then again, it seems that mutant woman are genetically superior than human women because their proportions are not easily achieved by the average human female. In fact there should be a rule that officially states that part of being a human looking mutant is having an incredible body unless your mutation involves physical abnormalities such as like with the Blob. That way normal human readers would stop complaining that the hypersexualized way mutants are drawn is an unrealistic view of the anatomy.
I have noticed the female members of the team seem to be slimming down in areas and gaining weight in others. Rogue and Psylocke have both gotten slimmer, gone down in bust size, but picked upped weight around the waist. We're really starting to move away from the Amazon figure and maybe getting to something more in keeping with reality. X-woman to me should be: Slim, healthy and muscular - like olympic sprinters or female UFC fighters.
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And there are positives among the new X-girls too - they're shorter and no longer popping out of their uniforms (mostly) - Marvel's finally realising that girls read comics too and not just horny teenage boys.
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I always thought Jean and Storm were the same height. Stats tell me otherwise. In my head, Jean will always be an almost 6' fiery goddess.
Originally Posted by The General, JLA #38
so kwannon is 6'1 tho right? thats badass. What are Tempo's stats because they're presenting a lithe graceful figure and I really like that idea with her armor. its very regal.
also, Emma is 5''10 145lbs. Storm is 5'11 127. wassup with that?
Storm is 5'11". Her original weight was 127lb back in the 90's, but they more recently upped her to 145lb, which makes more sense given her athletic and voluptuous build. I mean, let's be real, those trading card writers where just throwing numbers out, they weren't sports medicine analysts.
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and of course, Marvel always forgets that wolverine is 5'3, 195lbs. where's the short king pride?
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"Jason Aaron should know there is already a winner of the Phoenix Force and his name is Phoenixx9."
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