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    Ok I probiliy know this question has been asked before but ill ask anyway. what exacliy is the earth -2 from the dc new 52 ? is it a re-boot of the original earth-two or a re-boot of the second earth-two that was later named earth-2 after infinite crisis ? plus was about the heroes... are the re-boots of the golden age heroes or re-boots of the heroes from the second earth-two ? man i'm so confused. please help : )

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    It's a reboot of the old DC Earth-2, but keeping more to the spirit of how DC relaunched heroes in the Silver Age.

    The characters were reworked from the ground up, keeping basically just the names and core concepts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Stone View Post
    It's a reboot of the old DC Earth-2, but keeping more to the spirit of how DC relaunched heroes in the Silver Age.

    The characters were reworked from the ground up, keeping basically just the names and core concepts.
    I see... so that means the dc database is wrong. because it says that... "This is the Post-Flashpoint version of Earth-2" then I checked it out and found this... "Earth-2 was one of fifty-one divergent realities that branched from the core New Earth reality during the recreation of the Multiverse shortly following the events of Infinite Crisis. The primary heroic group of Earth-2 is Justice Society Infinity, an amalgamation of the older Justice Society of America and Infinity Inc."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid_omega_prime View Post
    I see... so that means the dc database is wrong. because it says that... "This is the Post-Flashpoint version of Earth-2" then I checked it out and found this... "Earth-2 was one of fifty-one divergent realities that branched from the core New Earth reality during the recreation of the Multiverse shortly following the events of Infinite Crisis. The primary heroic group of Earth-2 is Justice Society Infinity, an amalgamation of the older Justice Society of America and Infinity Inc."
    That's actually one of the groups in Morrison's Multiversity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid_omega_prime View Post
    I see... so that means the dc database is wrong. because it says that... "This is the Post-Flashpoint version of Earth-2" then I checked it out and found this... "Earth-2 was one of fifty-one divergent realities that branched from the core New Earth reality during the recreation of the Multiverse shortly following the events of Infinite Crisis. The primary heroic group of Earth-2 is Justice Society Infinity, an amalgamation of the older Justice Society of America and Infinity Inc."
    That was the Earth-2 that was created during 52. It followed along the lines of Roy Thomas's work on Infinity Inc and the old Earth-2 except Hector never died.

    Robinson's Earth-2 is an ultimatized reboot with Alan Scott, Jay Garrick and Hawkgirl as the new heroes of their world after the deaths of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman. I don't know what Tom Taylor has done though.

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    Think of it this way:

    Somewhere, out there, there is a "real" DC Multiverse. And on one of those worlds, there's an "Earth 2" where Alan Scott is Green Lantern, Jay Garrick is the Flash, etc.

    Every once in a while, there's a cosmic event that is like dropping a pebble into a lake. The effects ripple outward, but they are distorted reflection of the original. So the resulting multiverses tend to create new versions of "Earth 2" every time.

    The current Earth 2 is just the latest version of that "real" Earth 2 we've never seen.

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    I see it like this: In this new Earth 2, Batman, Wonder Woman, and Superman lived lives much the same as they did in the original Earth 2, but without the help of other heroes. Therefore, Catwoman married Bruce, Lois married Clark, Kara arrived late and Helena Wayne followed in her parents' footsteps.

    All the other heroes are only coming to light now, so they are young while the big 3 would be older (if they still live). So the foundation of the original Earth 2 is there, but somehow altered by the existence of the evil New Gods, who originally didn't exist on Earth 2. It's as if Darkseid somehow arranged for the biggest threats to him to be isolated so he could better defeat them.

    I wonder if this new Darkseid somehow has knowledge from the post-CIE universe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Stone View Post
    It's a reboot of the old DC Earth-2, but keeping more to the spirit of how DC relaunched heroes in the Silver Age.

    The characters were reworked from the ground up, keeping basically just the names and core concepts.
    ok it says on the dc database the Earth-2 is a wholly different alternate reality from that of Earth-Two. after Infinite Crisis earth-2 was made. the new 52 earth-2 is a reboot of the second one not the first one. so the original golden age heroes were erased and the new earth-2 heroes are going to pick up the torch. or that's what it sounds like ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kid_omega_prime View Post
    ok it says on the dc database the Earth-2 is a wholly different alternate reality from that of Earth-Two. after Infinite Crisis earth-2 was made. the new 52 earth-2 is a reboot of the second one not the first one. so the original golden age heroes were erased and the new earth-2 heroes are going to pick up the torch. or that's what it sounds like ?
    Just read the comic books and don't worry about databases that aren't official DC outlets, okay? It will be less confusing for you that way, and the current Earth 2 book isn't all that old.

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    What "second Earth-2"? The Earth 2 after IC was pretty much exactly the same as the one before it.

    It's a New 2-ization of the concept. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are still the original superheroes like in the original Earth 2, and they still beget the JSA and successors like Power Girl and Huntress, but it's all in the present rather than starting in the late 30s/early 40s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dispenser Of Truth View Post
    What "second Earth-2"? The Earth 2 after IC was pretty much exactly the same as the one before it.

    It's a New 2-ization of the concept. Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman are still the original superheroes like in the original Earth 2, and they still beget the JSA and successors like Power Girl and Huntress, but it's all in the present rather than starting in the late 30s/early 40s.
    Pre-Crisis

    The development of Earth-Two largely mirrors that of Earth-One. It is divergent from the main Earth in the period of time in which the heroes developed and operate, most of them originated in or around World War II. Its heroes experienced more or less parallel development with their Earth-One counterparts, with some exceptions. The heroes on Earth-Two occasionally interacted with those on Earth-One. Though Earth-Two bears much resemblance to the Earth-One universe, it does have some notable differences from Earth-One. The most prominent is the Earth's timeline, which is shifted back somewhat so that major events, such as the emergence of masked heroes and the explosion of Krypton, take place earlier in the chronology. Earth-Two received much of the magic that had been shunted out of Earth-One, resulting in magical dominance over science in Earth-Two. Politically, Quebec is a separate nation from Canada; South Africa abolished apartheid earlier, in keeping with the shifted timeline; and Atlantis was raised from the sea and parts of it are ruled by a queen; as a result of being on the surface, Atlanteans have no underwater adaptations. The Legion of Super-Heroes does not exist in Earth-Two's future. The Justice Society of America and All-Star Squadron both are formed by Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Earth-Two was destroyed during the Crisis on Infinite Earths.

    Since Earth-Two is essentially parallel to Earth-One, it is home to many Golden Age counterparts of Earth-One heroes, including Kal-L, the counterpart of Superman; Princess Diana Trevor, the counterpart of Wonder Woman; Jay Garrick, the counterpart of Barry Allen; and Alan Scott, the counterpart of the Green Lanterns. Heroes native to Earth-Two who share no Earth-One counterpart, or who immigrated to Earth-One and became heroes there include Johnny Quick, Power Girl, and the Sandman.

    Post-Crisis

    A new Earth-2 was created in the aftermath of 52. This Earth is not the same as the original Earth-Two, and is home to the Justice Society Infinity, an amalgamation of the Justice Society of America and Infinity, Inc. This Earth-2 is visited by Power Girl, who initially believes it to be her native Earth, but is later proven incorrect.

    New 52

    Beginning

    Following the New 52 reboot, the Earth-2 concept was rebooted. For this new concept for Earth-2, the center point is the invasion of Earth by Apokolips (led by Steppenwolf). Like the mainstream DC, the heroes of this Earth band together to fight this invading force. These seven are Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman (The first hero to appear in this world), Mr. 8 (Terry Sloan), Catwoman, Robin (Batman and Catwoman's child Helena Wayne), Supergirl and one unnamed hero or 'Wonder' as the denizens of Earth-2 call them. The ending effect of this Apokolips War ends with Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman dying, all for the purpose of saving the world. With Batman's master plan to shut down the Apokolips towers that control the Parademons accomplished, Earth is able to beat Apokolips back to its own dimension and finally leaving them alone. After this the world rebuilds, idolizing their fallen 'Wonders' with holidays and statues. Five years after the end of the War, Wonders begin to reappear.

    Five Years Later

    Wonders such as The Flash (Jay Garrick), The Green Lantern (Alan Scott), Hawkgirl (Kendra Munoz-Saunders) and The Atom (Al Pratt) band together to battle an undead force known as The Grey, the opposite force to The Green, the force that empowers The Green Lantern. Grundy, the avatar for The Grey, begins to reek havoc on Earth after The Green chose it's new avatar (Alan). The heroes band together, even if some are at each others throats- Hawkgirl and Atom, and battle Grundy until Green Lantern places Grundy on the Moon, away from Earth and The Grey. Earth, finally seeing it's Wonders return, is overjoyed. The return continues as Khalid dons the helmet of fate to fight the sorcerer Wotan.

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