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    Quote Originally Posted by vaf2675 View Post
    The facts are that DC yet again completely screwed over another character in their New 52 revamp B.S. Erasing all of Wally's achievements is only necessary because they decided to bring back Barry and where suddenly faced with the sad fact that Wally had surpassed Barry ten times over. So how to fix that problem? Well let's erase all that history and start over from scratch!

    How creative of them.

    Lord knows what they have planned for Donna Troy, if they ever decide to bring her back that is.
    God help Donna Troy! I hope fans still bug DC about this injustice at conventions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vaf2675 View Post
    And this is good why???
    Is good for some characters because it gets rid of unnecessary continuity (Superman, Donna Troy, etc) and tell new stories.

    In some cases like Green Arrow, the stories become better than ever.

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    By the way, are people seriously worried about Donna being changed?

    She was a mess! She's the one who needed a reboot the most.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    Most characters have re-started from scratch (Superman, Green Arrow, Batgirl, etc.), that's what happens in reboots. There's no way that Wally would have been re-introduced the same way he left.

    And Donna is most likely going to be from a different race and probably at the same age as current Wally.
    Batman New 52 is a lot like Post Crisis Batman
    Ultimate Peter Parker is a lot like 616 Peter Parker

    I want Similar but different, Not! Completely new character with a beloved character names slapped on.


    Wally West checklist

    1.Original Kid Flash X
    2.Ginger X
    3.Founding member of the Teen Titans X
    4.The biggest Flash Fan in the world X
    5.Happy, Funny, Down to Earth, Average Intelligence, Everyman X
    6.Related to Iris West V(Is this really the most core aspect about the character that defines him and makes him a great character that you can't change???)
    7.Alive X

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    Last edited by Trevel8182; 05-20-2014 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevel8182 View Post
    Batman New 52 is a lot like Post Crisis Batman
    Ultimate Peter Parker is a lot like 616 Peter Parker

    I want Similar but different, Not! Completely new character with a beloved character names slapped on.
    New 52 Wally is also pretty similar personality-wise to old Wally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    New 52 Wally is also pretty similar personality-wise to old Wally.
    1.Original Kid Flash X
    2.Ginger X
    3.Founding member of the Teen Titans X
    4.The biggest Flash Fan in the world X
    5.Happy, Funny, Down to Earth, Average Intelligence, Everyman X
    6.Related to Iris West V(Is this really the most core aspect about the character that defines him and makes him a great character that you can't change???)
    7.Alive X

    New 52 W.I.N.O.

    1.Not Kid Flash or Second Kid Flash
    2.What Ginger lolz
    3.Nope
    4.Hates the Flash
    5.Angry, Smart Ass, Street Thug, of Average or Lesser intelligence, with bad upbringing and a disrespect for authority
    6.Related to Iris West
    7.Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevel8182 View Post
    New 52 W.I.N.O.

    1.Not Kid Flash or Second Kid Flash
    2.What Ginger lolz
    3.Nope
    4.Hates the Flash
    5.Angry, Smart Ass, Street Thug, of Average or Lesser intelligence, with bad upbringing and a disrespect for authority
    6.Related to Iris West
    7.Dead
    Okay, I'm talking personality-wise.

    Wally has always been a smart-ass (at least from his first ongoing onwards, later he starting maturing but he still kept his sarcastic side).

    "Street-thug"? What? He's just doing some graffiti.

    We don't know if he's from "lesser-intelligence", in fact Iris mentioned that he's pretty smart, is just that he doesn't have a good role model.

    He's alive currently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    Most characters have re-started from scratch (Superman, Green Arrow, Batgirl, etc.), that's what happens in reboots. There's no way that Wally would have been re-introduced the same way he left.

    And Donna is most likely going to be from a different race and probably at the same age as current Wally.
    I would have been fine with a few changes to Wally, but he's a drastically different character for unnecessary reasons. Batgirl at least has some critical stories (The Killing Joke), she's still intelligent, and she's still the same age as her primary friends from the old universe (Dinah, Dick, and it looks like Helena's going to be pretty unchanged outside of being a spy).

    I'm fine with the race change because I'd like to see more diversity, but really this Wally might as well be a different character. At least IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    Okay, I'm talking personality-wise.

    Wally has always been a smart-ass (at least from his first ongoing onwards, later he starting maturing but he still kept his sarcastic side).

    "Street-thug"? What? He's just doing some graffiti.

    We don't know if he's from "lesser-intelligence", in fact Iris mentioned that he's pretty smart, is just that he doesn't have a good role model.

    He's alive currently.
    There's a sizable difference between being a smart ass and being sarcastic.

    They say this is the umpteenth time he's been arrested so street thug. Just because a parental figure says something about you it doesn't mean its true. Who sprays a flash sucks sign in broad daylight next to the police station in Central City, an idiot does that.

    And he'll be dead in 5

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