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    Quote Originally Posted by !Pharozonk! View Post
    I'm not talking about in the context of the Silver Age Flash stories. Even in the post-Flash:Rebirth stories, you could clearly see a mutual respect and friendship between Barry and Wally. What better update is there to that? Reverting back to making Wally a little kid is a regression rather than progression.
    And I'm talking about the relationship adult/kid that existed way before that.

    Wally was going to be regressed in one form or another anyway (just like any other New 52 DC character).

    Quote Originally Posted by vaf2675 View Post
    The development of their relationship was very well done, your argument makes no sense.
    Yes it does, 60's stories are completely dated now (aside from the crazy imagination that existed back then), the dialogue and interactions were quite heavyhanded.

    I want a dynamic where people can actually speak like people (at least for modern comic book standards).

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    So what you're basically saying is that you want the same stories from the Silver Age to be retold despite nobody asking for them to be?
    "In any time, there will always be a need for heroes." - the Time Trapper, Legion of Superheroes #61(1994)

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    Quote Originally Posted by !Pharozonk! View Post
    So what you're basically saying is that you want the same stories from the Silver Age to be retold despite nobody asking for them to be?
    Hey, when life gives you lemons...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    Hey, when life gives you lemons...
    ....you throw them back and ask for limes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by !Pharozonk! View Post
    ....you throw them back and ask for limes.
    Eh, lemons and limes are the same for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    Eh, lemons and limes are the same for me.
    Fine, you throw them back and ask for oranges.
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    Quote Originally Posted by !Pharozonk! View Post
    Fine, you throw them back and ask for oranges.
    Now those are delicious!

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    Do you think if instead of having two Flashes running around in the pre-new 52 if they would of given Wally his own new identity when Barry returned like they did with Dick becoming Nightwing and Kyle becoming White Lantern, do you think Wally would still be around and DC would of seen him as less of a threat to Barry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    Hey, when life gives you lemons...
    “When life gives you lemons, don’t make lemonade. Make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn lemons, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life’s manager! Make life rue the day it thought it could give Wally West lemons! Do you know who I am? I’m the man who’s gonna burn your house down! With the lemons! I’m gonna get Cyborg to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevel8182 View Post
    Do you think if instead of having two Flashes running around in the pre-new 52 if they would of given Wally his own new identity when Barry returned like they did with Dick becoming Nightwing and Kyle becoming White Lantern, do you think Wally would still be around and DC would of seen him as less of a threat to Barry.
    That could have been a great solution.
    Good Marvel characters- Bring Them Back!!!

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    What does Wally mean for Bart Allen now?
    DC won't have two Kid Flash's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandnewfan View Post
    What does Wally mean for Bart Allen now?
    DC won't have two Kid Flash's.
    I thought Lobdell turned him into and evil serial killer from the future and then killed him in a Teen Titans Annual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandnewfan View Post
    What does Wally mean for Bart Allen now?
    Nothing.

    Then again, there is no Bart Allen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trevel8182 View Post
    Do you think if instead of having two Flashes running around in the pre-new 52 if they would of given Wally his own new identity when Barry returned like they did with Dick becoming Nightwing and Kyle becoming White Lantern, do you think Wally would still be around and DC would of seen him as less of a threat to Barry.
    Quote Originally Posted by KurtW95 View Post
    That could have been a great solution.
    Not really if you want to get a new audience.

    The Flash is not as well-known as Batman and the rest of his family, having two Flashs at the same time at the beginning of the New 52 would have been complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rakzo View Post
    Not really if you want to get a new audience.

    The Flash is not as well-known as Batman and the rest of his family, having two Flashs at the same time at the beginning of the New 52 would have been complicated.
    Flash is as well known as Green Lantern and what I was saying is it would of been a good idea in retrospect to give Wally his own new identity(That shows of his beautiful red hair like his Kid Flash costume) because for a lot of legacy characters, that's the only way they can survive. I think if they did that with Wally Pre-New 52 he would of probably ended up like Roy and Dick in the New 52 and not what we have now.

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