"The Flash Is Not About Tragedy": Wally West Appreciation! (NO NUWALLY BASHING!!!)

[Speed Force League Unlimited]

Nicely put.

Love your avatar of the maniped new Wally West

[Speed Force League Unlimited]

Not many heroes get invited to dine in with their rogues gallery, and have fun while at it



Can't look at the original Wally without liking him

[Rakzo]

Oh, that was one of the best issues from Messner-Loebs' run, he got The Rogues perfectly.

[titanfan]

Basically it's the same issue as we had with Amanda Waller being thin or Alan Scott being gay.

The "same personality" argument won't work. Your race (and in general your look, gender, sexuality) make up a great deal of your personality. This Wally West will ultimately grow into a totally different character into the one people knew and love.

Ultimately, that's probably ok. New Universe and all. But the fans who grew up with the old Wally need to mourn the loss of their Wally as there is no longer any possibility that they are getting the same person back. (Or at least someone who will grow up to be the same person)

I also understand the outrage--I mean DC was basically using the "Wally West" name to try and gain Wally fans. But the character they presented was not the same Wally. I was a big fan of Amanda Waller pre-52, but so far I haven't warmed up to the new version. My gut feeling was that when they announced who he was, I had a feeling he was going to be totally different. DC was basically tired of fielding the same question over and over. Their answer is "Your Wally is never coming back in the new 52". That's basically the end.

Look out Donna Troy.

[Pharozonk]

I love that issue. It's probably Messner-Loebs at his finest.

[Neowing]

I'm a little irritated by this "white savior" stuff some of you are throwing around.

I'm white and was in the big brother program as a kid. I had a black big brother who did a lot for me, he really mentored me and got me out of a bad place.

Now I am in the big brother program as an adult trying to help other kids. I've worked with kids of all races, and what matters is that they are PEOPLE who need help and a little guidance. I can guarantee you none of them see me as some sort of "white savior" towards them. It's a great thing for a troubled kid to have an adult to look up to. Race should mean nothing in cases like this.

I don't really care too much if Wally is black or white. But it's a little offensive to suggest that there is some kind of hidden agenda going on here. Seems to me in the world of the DCU, Barry is going out of his way to help a troubled kid who he has a connection to through Iris. What's the problem?

That useless woman called Iris should be the damn role model.

The problem is pretty damn obvious, It's extremely stereotypical and it didn't help one bit how the artist and writer made it all come together.

How about YOU step in Iris? Hes your family.

[Rakzo]

That useless woman called Iris should be the damn role model.

The problem is pretty damn obvious, It's extremely stereotypical and it didn't help one bit how the artist and writer made it all look like.

The thing is that a young boy who lacks a father figure would most likely look for a male figure.

[Neowing]

[Neowing]

The thing is that a young boy who lacks a father figure would most likely look for a male figure.

This coming from someone whos speaking from experience, that's a load of barnacle.

It's year 2014, step yo game up Irish. Womens can be role models to young boys.

[Rakzo]

This coming from someone whos speaking from experience, that's a load of barnacle.

It's year 2014, step yo game up Irish. Womens can be role models to young boys.

One: "Irish"? What the hell? Is that discrimination?

Two: I'm not saying that women can't be role models, that's ridiculous, I'm saying that a boy who lacks a father figure would look for a male figure.

That's simply logic.

[Speed Force League Unlimited]

I recently opened this issue while moving through that volume of Justice League to see when Barry joins the league again
This is a great moment

[Neowing]

One: "Irish"? What the hell? Is that discrimination?

Two: I'm not saying that women can't be role models, that's ridiculous, I'm saying that a boy who lacks a father figure would look for a male figure.

That's simply logic.

No It's not. I have never looked for a male figure. They don't NEED one but it won't hurt sure.

[Pharozonk]

I find it hard to believe that this new Wally would look up to someone who he has nothing in common with.

[Rakzo]

I find it hard to believe that this new Wally would look up to someone who he has nothing in common with.

Respect doesn't necessarily depends on the similarities.

[Neowing]

I love this moment and Jay's pose lol