In terms of pure physical strength who is the strongest marvel character

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Blue Marvel: Adam Brashear All Powers And Weaknesses Explained

Neutronium: Blue Marvel appears to be only weak against this substance from the Neutral Zone.

Superhuman Reflexes: Blue Marvel reflexes are superior to those of the finest human athletes. He's capable of catching bullets and dodging projectiles.

Superhuman Agility: Blue Marvel's natural balance, agility, and body coordination are enhanced to levels that are far beyond the natural physical limits of even the finest human athlete.

Superhuman Stamina: Blue Marvel's enhanced musculature is far more efficient than that of a humans. His muscles produces very no fatigue toxins, thereby granting limitless stamina.

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Here are some video talking about blue marvel powers and strength.
Other parts inside.



Blue Marvel vs Ultimate Hulk...
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forum...-hulk-1893308/

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Who is Marvel's "Blue Marvel?" Possibly the Strongest Being on Earth.


Yes blue marvel is the strongest superhero on earth.
Note- blue marvel has limitless stamina as well.

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Feats vs writer statements vs bios
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forum...-bios-1547963/

Feats vs logic vs statements
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forum...ments-1915039/

Feats vs authors-statements
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forum...ments-1781761/


Panel feats VS Narration VS Character Statements
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t557186.html


https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comme...vs_statements/


https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forum...feats-1630798/



This was posted awhile ago on on another forum comicvine.

The wiki get it's info from the comics itself for those who do not read them or kept up.So it's futile to tell folks to stop reading bio info.
The bio tends to get right alot of times or most time.
This website is feats crazy,that's another reason i STOP posting in the battle forums.
Showing lifting strength feats is not everything because the character maybe new and needs more time,so that's not fair and there are other ways to find out how strong or how powerful someone is.Just use your common sense,it's not that hard,besides the sentry stalemated the hulk and he was not even trying at the end.
When he fought the hulk he was kicking his butt and then sentry said come on,hit me etc..
Sentry did not even fight back and he was was not even at full power.
Hulk fan boys get carried away at times just like the superman ones.
So they have nothing to say to me and am not listening to them.
Thor,sentry and blue marvel start out stronger then hulk anyway and blue marvel is stronger then all of them but we need to see more of him so never say never,besides like i said,he is at least as strong has the hulk.

Note-
Even when mentioning the feats it's downplayed by certain folks.
I could go in more details about that but i don't have time.

Marvel characters stronger than the hulk.

Bruce Banner, the Incredible Hulk, is considered by many to be the strongest hero on Earth. At the very least, the Hulk definitely thinks so, constantly yelling that “Hulk is the strongest one there is!”. With gamma-fueled strength, a healing factor, and his notorious ability for getting stronger the madder he becomes, fans generally believe the Hulk is unbeatable. The early days of Marvel definitely reinforced the idea; their two strongest heroes were the Hulk and Thor. Over the years, the Hulk’s strength has grown to the point where his footsteps create earthquakes. Writers have expanded on Hulk’s powers as they try and reach the upper levels of his strength; the Hulk always turns the tide of any battle.
Despite the power to lift mountains and crack planets, Marvel is chock full of beings stronger than the Hulk; some can turn him inside out with just a pinky. It’s not pleasant to think about, which is why Marvel likes to hide said characters away, letting fans believe Hulk really is the strongest one around. However, much to chagrin of Hulk fans around the world, today at CBR we’re looking at 15 characters stronger than the Hulk that Marvel would rather you not know exist.

https://www.cbr.com/marvel-character...than-the-hulk/

15 Marvel Characters Stronger Than The Hulk | ScreenRant
https://screenrant.com/marvel-charac...than-the-hulk/

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Yes blue marvel is stronger then hulk and more powerful then hulk.

Blue Marvel is not stronger than Hulk, no amount of youtube videos that you spam here is gonna change that, i could do the same for Hulk and post many times more in fact. BM biggest strength feat is lifting an asteroid the size of Arkansas, Hulks best strength feat is lifting infinite matter but his biggest realistic one is holding the weight of a star.

Again spamming a bunch of blogposts from people like you and me isn't gonna change what's already confirmed to be canon in Marvel itself

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Even DC has recently mentioned how Hulk is stronger than Doomsday, a guy that killed Superman and beat up the whole JL before.

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There really is no doubt that Hulk is the strongest super-hero in Marvel, when it comes to physical strength.

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Aunt May 10 characters

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Feats vs writer statements vs bios
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forum...-bios-1547963/











This was posted awhile ago on on another forum comicvine.

The wiki get it's info from the comics itself for those who do not read them or kept up.So it's futile to tell folks to stop reading bio info.
The bio tends to get right alot of times or most time.
This website is feats crazy,that's another reason i STOP posting in the battle forums.
Showing lifting strength feats is not everything because the character maybe new and needs more time,so that's not fair and there are other ways to find out how strong or how powerful someone is.Just use your common sense,it's not that hard,besides the sentry stalemated the hulk and he was not even trying at the end.
When he fought the hulk he was kicking his butt and then sentry said come on,hit me etc..
Sentry did not even fight back and he was was not even at full power.
Hulk fan boys get carried away at times just like the superman ones.
So they have nothing to say to me and am not listening to them.
Thor,sentry and blue marvel start out stronger then hulk anyway and blue marvel is stronger then all of them but we need to see more of him so never say never,besides like i said,he is at least as strong has the hulk.

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Even when mentioning the feats it's downplayed by certain folks.
I could go in more details about that but i don't have time.


5 Heroes Stronger Than HULK And THOR That The MCU Should Introduce
https://www.comicbookmovie.com/thor/...e-a142704?cp=5



Chaos War Hercules is stronger then hulk as well.

By the way here some Hercules vs hulk chat.
Who's Stronger Hulk or Hercules (self.Marvel)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comm...k_or_hercules/








This was posted 10 years.
Did Hercules get stronger?
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After WWH it seemed as though Hercules had gotten physically stronger, he knocked down Green Scar during WWH but stopped fighting, I'm not sure if he did get stronger but it seems as though he did. I don't believe Thor with his strength alone could have done what Herc did to Hulk during WWH but it could just be me. Did Hercules get stronger? What are your theories?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/hercu...ronger-383681/

Hercules or Hulk? Who is stronger? - Hercules - Comic Vine
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/hercu...tronger-26723/

Why isn't Hercules the strongest?
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/hercu...ongest-679564/

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Blue Marvel is not stronger than Hulk, no amount of youtube videos that you spam here is gonna change that, i could do the same for Hulk and post many times more in fact. BM biggest strength feat is lifting an asteroid the size of Arkansas, Hulks best strength feat is lifting infinite matter but his biggest realistic one is holding the weight of a star.

Again spamming a bunch of blogposts from people like you and me isn't gonna change what's already confirmed to be canon in Marvel itself

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Even DC has recently mentioned how Hulk is stronger than Doomsday, a guy that killed Superman and beat up the whole JL before.

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There really is no doubt that Hulk is the strongest super-hero in Marvel, when it comes to physical strength.

I see you around to post fast to make sure you keep saying hulk is strongest hero huh?
Well he is not.

Blue Marvel is neither stronger than Hulk. BM biggest strength feat is lifting an asteroid the size of Arkansas, Hulks best strength feat is lifting infinite matter but his biggest realistic one is holding the weight of a star.

Again spamming a bunch of blogposts from people like you and me isn't gonna change what's already confirmed to be canon in Marvel itself

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You just ignore the videos,links and my posts and views again.
That's why it's a waste of time talking to you.
That bio info was before blue marvel was on the scene by the way,and blue marvel has his own bio that says his super strength is equal to hulk that you just ignore again,and again.
That info was for world war and wb hulk time period by the way and blue marvel is stronger then both.
Blue marvel was not shown at the time and his first appearance was after that bio.

Here is talk about hulk strength feats.
The Top 5 Greatest Strength Feats of the Incredible Hulk
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/hulk/...edibl-1995085/

There is a list on marvel wiki as well.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Bruce_Banner_(Earth-616)

Take alook at my view about feat etc.. above again or below.
Thanks.

This was posted awhile ago on on another forum comicvine.

The wiki get it's info from the comics itself for those who do not read them or kept up.So it's futile to tell folks to stop reading bio info.
The bio tends to get right alot of times or most time.
This website is feats crazy,that's another reason i STOP posting in the battle forums.
Showing lifting strength feats is not everything because the character maybe new and needs more time,so that's not fair and there are other ways to find out how strong or how powerful someone is.Just use your common sense,it's not that hard,besides the sentry stalemated the hulk and he was not even trying at the end.
When he fought the hulk he was kicking his butt and then sentry said come on,hit me etc..
Sentry did not even fight back and he was was not even at full power.
Hulk fan boys get carried away at times just like the superman ones.
So they have nothing to say to me and am not listening to them.
Thor,sentry and blue marvel start out stronger then hulk anyway and blue marvel is stronger then all of them but we need to see more of him so never say never,besides like i said,he is at least as strong has the hulk.

Note-
Even when mentioning the feats it's downplayed by certain folks.
I could go in more details about that but i don't have time.

Lifting wise and striking strength wise blue marvel is stronger then hulk.
Hulk could not knock sentry out with one punch but blue marvel did.
Common sense tells me blue marvel is stronger then hulk.
Anyway blue marvel is stronger then hulk.
Plain and simple and that is the way it is.
Trust me you not changing my mind.
By the way ultimate hercules is stronger then ultimate thor and hulk.
Blue marvel and hercules have limitless strength(Absolute Strength).
If you want to go by only showing known lifting strength feats,instead of statements, bio etc.. combined only then hercules was shown to be stronger then hulk.
He lifted the sky heavens but that's something you ignore as well.

Godlike Strength: Hercules' principal power is his godlike strength, and he is physically the strongest of all the existing Olympians. As the Olympian god of raw strength, Hercules' strength is unlimited, making him one of the strongest and most powerful heroes in the Marvel Universe.[11]

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Hercules_(Earth-616)

When i get info on a character i want to know more about i read the comics and the officially bio info and bio info wiki etc..
That's how i come to a conclusion.
I don't get my info from you.
Anyway looking at feats,bio info etc..blue marvel is the strongest marvel superhero.
Herclues is the second strongest and hulk is the third strongest i think(he could be a tie with hickmen's hyperion or not but they are really close in strength anyway).
This info below makes sense too.


Absolute Strength
https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Absolute_Strength
Blue marvel starts out stronger anyway and remain stronger.
Blue marvel has Absolute Strength,while hulk does not.
https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Strength_Infinitum

Anyway that's all i am going say and i will leave this thread because there nothing else to say here and i plan to watch the the witcher - season 1 so i have no more time to chat.
Blue marvel is the strongest superhero.

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I see you around to post fast to make sure you keep saying hulk is strongest hero huh?
Well he is not.




You just ignore the videos,links and my posts and views again.
That's why it's a waste of time talking to you.
That bio info was before blue marvel was on the scene by the way,and blue marvel has his own bio that says his super strength is equal to hulk that you just ignore again,and again.
That info was for world war and wb hulk time period by the way and blue marvel is stronger then both.
Blue marvel was not shown at the time and his first appearance was after that bio.

The videos got it right.
Lifting wise and striking strength wise.
Hulk could not knock sentry out with one punch but blue marvel did.
Common sense tells me blue marvel is stronger then hulk.
Anyway blue marvel is stronger then hulk.
Plain and simple and that is the way it is.
Trust me you not changing my mind.
By the way ultimate hercules is stronger then ultimate thor and hulk.
Blue marvel and hercules have limitless strength(Absolute Strength).
If you want to go by only showing known lifting strength feats,instead of statements, bio etc.. combined only then hercules was shown to be stronger then hulk.
He lifted the sky heavens but that's something you ignore as well.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Hercules_(Earth-616)

When i get info on a character i want to know more about i read the comics and the officially bio info and bio info wiki etc..
That's how i come to a conclusion.
I don't get my info from you.
Anyway looking at feats,bio info etc..blue marvel is the strongest marvel superhero.
Herclues is the second strongest and hulk is the third strongest i think(he could be tie with hickmen's hyperion or not but they are really close in strength anyway).
This info below makes sense too.


Absolute Strength
https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Absolute_Strength
Blue marvel starts out stronger anyway and remain stronger.
Blue marvel has Absolute Strength,while hulk does not.
https://powerlisting.fandom.com/wiki/Strength_Infinitum

Anyway that's all i am going say and i will leave this thread because there nothing else to say here and i plan to watch the the witcher - season 1 so i have no more time to chat.
Blue marvel is the strongest superhero.
That's it from me.
Bye.

For what it's worth, Kevin Grevioux (Blue Marvels creator) has flat out said that no marvel character is stronger than Thor in his opinion. He said Hulk should be able to equal him if he's mad enough, but that's it.

Personally I don't agree with his logic, because it stems from the fact that Thor is a god. And there are plenty of gods who aren't even half as strong as guys like Hulk or Blue Marvel. Nonetheless, thought it was worth mentioning.

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Neutronium: Blue Marvel appears to be only weak against this substance from the Neutral Zone.

For what it's worth, Kevin Grevioux (Blue Marvels creator) has flat out said that no marvel character is stronger than Thor in his opinion. He said Hulk should be able to equal him if he's mad enough, but that's it.

Personally I don't agree with his logic, because it stems from the fact that Thor is a god. And there are plenty of gods who aren't even half as strong as guys like Hulk or Blue Marvel. Nonetheless, thought it was worth mentioning.

I edited above.
True he said that but marvel officially disagrees with kevin.

I posted some info about certain writers and thier views at a certain time etc..
Blue marvel and hercules are stronger then hulk and thor.

Anyway that's it from me.
Bye.

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I see you around to post fast to make sure you keep saying hulk is strongest hero huh?
Well he is not.

He is according to Marvel, posting random youtube videos and blogs written by random people, wont change that fact. Marvel has already confirmed Hulk is the strongest hero they have.

You just ignore the videos,links and my posts and views again.
That's why it's a waste of time talking to you.
That bio info was before blue marvel was on the scene by the way,and blue marvel has his own bio that says his super strength is equal to hulk that you just ignore again,and again.
That info was for world war and wb hulk time period by the way and blue marvel is stronger then both.
Blue marvel was not shown at the time and his first appearance was after that bio.

All you do is post random youtube videos and links to blongs written by random people, anyone can do that look

https://www.cbr.com/strongest-marvel-superheroes/



What is this suppose to prove? This is not how you debate or try to prove someone is strongest, we do that by feats.

And by feats the best strength feat Blue Marvel has is lifting an asteroid the size of Arkansas which is pathetic in comparison to some of the best strength feats Hulk has.

Lifting wise and striking strength wise blue marvel is stronger then hulk.
Hulk could not knock sentry out with one punch but blue marvel did.
Common sense tells me blue marvel is stronger then hulk.
Anyway blue marvel is stronger then hulk.
Plain and simple and that is the way it is.
Trust me you not changing my mind.
By the way ultimate hercules is stronger then ultimate thor and hulk.
Blue marvel and hercules have limitless strength(Absolute Strength).
If you want to go by only showing known lifting strength feats,instead of statements, bio etc.. combined only then hercules was shown to be stronger then hulk.
He lifted the sky heavens but that's something you ignore as well.

No he isn't, Hulk has better striking feats as well as strength feats than Blue Marvel. From punching through time and reality, breaking Onslaughts armor when no other hero on Earth could, breaking a planet, shaking a planet, shaking infinite number of dimensions with his punch, lifting plantery weights and star weights as well as infinite mass.
Did you also forget to mention that Blue Marvel actually lost to Sentry in the end? When Hulk didn't and also the fact that Sentry was weakened in his fight with Blue Marvel due to the negative zone spilling out?
You have no common sense, you use wikipedias, youtube videos and random blogs to argue your points rather than actual feats and you ignore official statements from Marvel.
Blue Marvel is not stronger than Hulk, tell me what is Blue Marvels best strength feat?
No it isn't, because Marvel tells us Hulk is stronger.
I don't give a crap about Ultimate Hercules.
Where was it said or shown that Blue Marvel has limitless strength? Hercules was already overpowered by Hulk several times in the past.
I already addressed Hercules lifting the heavens and how it's insignificant to the feat of Hulk lifting INFINITE MATTER, that you ignore yourself.

Stop embarrassing yourself, stop using wikipedias to argue, use actual feats and don't lie and invent feats that don't exist, as well as ignore official statements from Marvel like this one
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I edited above.
True he said that but marvel officially disagrees with kevin.

I posted some info about certain writers and thier views at a certain time etc..
Blue marvel and hercules are stronger then hulk and thor.

Anyway that's it from me.
Bye.

Thor and Hercules have stalemated each other in physical strength 2 times already

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3 times actually if we count him stalemating Jane Thor

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While Hulk has overpowered Hercules multiple times already and not only that but he has overpowered him and multiple other people at the same time

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even when Hercules had the help of Namor, WonderMan and IronMan

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So this idea that Hercules is stronger than Hulk or Thor is pure fantasy, he is equal in strength to Thor as it was shown multiple times when they arm wrestled and he is weaker than Hulk as shown multiple times when Hulk has overpowered him.

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Coming back to this and i had more time to think about it.

I wrote this awhile ago but made some changes but did not posted it here.
Recently made some changes to view are who has limiltless strength etc... and who does not after reading some more handbooks and more recent ones.

If you want truly find out how strong a superhero/villain is the best places to go is comicvine bio info,dc,marvel and other certain wiki's for other comicbook companies,normal wikipedia and dc and marvel for example the dc and marvel websites and marvel and dc handbooks.
Simple as that.
For details certain websites will have more info then others.
Sometimes comicvine will have more details for powers then the wikis and sometimes about the same and sometimes the other way around etc..

You could even check out dc and marvel official websites to get more of picture even if they have shorter info and the same thing for the official handbooks.
Look at all of the them to get the full picture and come up with your own conclusion if you stay objective or stay objective enough.
Don't go to battle boards to get the true info or certain fan made websites like battle wiki or superherodatabase.

Those types of websites are not reliable and if you are objective or objective enough you will know it when you see it.
No need to for constant debating since the more true or true answers are there and the comics themselves.

Now the info i will give below was the banner thor war or recent hulk vs thor battles.
Now in the past thor started out stronger then hulk when created and both were not limitless.
Just read what stan lee wrote in thor marvel wiki bio for example.

If normal thor is close to normal hulk strength common sense says he would have near limitless strength too but just happen to be lower then hulk's. With the odin force he would be stronger then normal hulk and equal to worldbreaker hulk in strength. Rune king thor is even stronger then worldbreaker hulk.
Normal thor and hulk have near limitless super strength.

Superman is near limitless in strength like icon,shazam and black adam for example.

The best places is handbooks for the info by the way,so you could look up the comicvine and dc and marvel wiki's etc.. but they are still fanmade websites so the best place to go are the handbooks.
They will be the most accurate because they are official and not comicvine bio's and dc and marvel wiki etc..

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This was posted in the blue marvel thread.

Anybody read these recent marvel handbooks?

Marvel Avengers - The Ultimate Character Guide - New Edition (2021)
Marvel Encyclopedia New Edition

Some info from the books.
Marvel Avengers - The Ultimate Character Guide - New Edition (2021)


Blue marvel
Powers
Superhuman strength,speed,senses and agility.
Adam can also fly and survive in space,The true extent of his powers is yet to be revealed.

Quote-
Adam's body is an anti-matter reactor,giving him almost limitless power.

Energy projection 5
Strength 7
Durability 6
Fighting Skill 4
Intelligence 6
Speed 5

Hulk
Powers
The hulk possesses almost limitless strength.
He can leap serveral miles in single bound,and his body heals almost instantly.

Energy projection 1
Strength 7
Durability 7
Fighting Skill 4
Intelligence 6
Speed 3

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Marve..._Guide_Vol_1_3

Marvel Encyclopedia, New Edition Hardcover – Illustrated, April 2, 2019


Hulk
Powers
Fueled by gamma radiation,the hulk possesses almost unlimited physical strength.
The madder he gets the stronger he gets.
He can leap several miles in single instantly,he possesees a strong homing instinct for the desert where he was born

Hyperion Earth-712
Powers
Hyperion possesses almost limitless strength,speed and endurance.
He is impervious to virtually any injury,can fly through the air,and can project radioactive beams of energy from eyes as flash-vision.


https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Marve...dition_Vol_1_1

Interesting and getting back to this from the handbooks.

So has normal sentry his speed is a 5,and not light speed or higher.

I thought it was 7 looking at some powerrgrids in past.

Of course as void/sentry it would be a 7 i think.

His energy projection i thought was also a 5 but it's really 3.

They even change it to a 3 in the marvel wiki and the same with the speed,changing it from a 7 to 5.

Coming back to this.

Virtually limitless power.

Key word

Virtually.

vir·tu·al·ly nearly; almost,practically.

So putting it like this it would be

The potential for Near or Almost limitless power.

So it's not potential for limitless power,it's potential for near or almost limitless power.