Avengers #41 - Spoilers

[sifighter]

Well now we know how the SW#3 cover's events came to be: All-New Avengers (610+Miles) vs Ultimate Reed and the Cabal, who just fell into his lap. I've only done some cursory reading of Ultimates to get an idea about Ultimate RR...looks like it's gonna be an interesting matchup.

As for Shi'ar, its not just they who will attack earth- its Annhilus, the Brood, the Kree, and the Skrulls as well (I guess that's what Avengers #42 cover is all about, eh?)

Well at least it explains why Star-Lord is in Secret Wars, and most likely the rest of the Guardians of the Galaxy.

[Mahes]

Good issue and it's like what the majority thought about how the Cabal would survive along with Namor. Some good plot movement and T'Challa is going to really regret that opportunity he had. Namor will seek his revenge and it won't be pretty.

Nice to see the galactic community finally seeing how everything is dying.

Last but not least....Ultimate Reed is back in fine form along with the City. Him destroying worlds makes sense but I hope we see if he though about alternative solutions to the problem. Him allying with the Cabal, if that's what happens, will make them more formidable.

[XPac]

Well this isn't going to end well, because now we've got a angry/betrayed Namor working with the Cabal and now Evil Reed Richards(The Maker). Although I doubt that the Cabal would be able to turn the Ultimate Universe against the MU, seeing as how people like Spider-Man and the All-new X-men have already gone to that world and befriended some of the inhabitants.

If it's every universe for itself, it may not matter to SOME at least how friendly they are to inhabitants of the 616. Friendship may not mean that much if it's the only thing preventing 2 entire universes (minus 1 earth) from ending.

Though the problem is universes are dying despite earths being destroyed, so something is changing the rules. At this point it's hard to say what the logical thing to do at this point is if blowing up earths doesn't actually do anything.

[AcesX1X]

what a fantastic issue from start to finish. the sea king is alive!!!! and righteously infuriated. big mistake illuminati! BIG MISTAKE.

imperius rex!!!!!!!!

[Songbird/Diamondback]

I guess to recite lines from SNL's Ellian Gonzales musical...

"He thought the meaner was the sea, but NOT AS MEAN AS MEEEEEEEEE!!!"

[Biclopcicle]

If it's every universe for itself, it may not matter to SOME at least how friendly they are to inhabitants of the 616. Friendship may not mean that much if it's the only thing preventing 2 entire universes (minus 1 earth) from ending.

Though the problem is universes are dying despite earths being destroyed, so something is changing the rules. At this point it's hard to say what the logical thing to do at this point is if blowing up earths doesn't actually do anything.

yeah Black Swan even called the series of incursions the "Game of Worlds." ... Something is going on behind the scenes between the Beyonders/Ivory Kings and Rabum Alal & the Black Swans. Like it's all a chess match; Battleworld was always going to be the end outcome regardless of how 616 heroes or whoever decided to deal with the incursions. And we may not even find out what the true nature of the chess match is until SW#4 (taking inference from Hickman's last interview)

[Chief Jon]

imperius rex forever!!!!!

[Viteh]

While I really like this issue, does anyone else feel that they have been really short lately? Last New Avengers issue also felt really short, it seems it's all set up for Secret Wars.

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While I really like this issue, does anyone else feel that they have been really short lately? Last New Avengers issue also felt really short, it seems it's all set up for Secret Wars.

Yeah, this issue was particularly short.

[Username taken]

Am I the only who thinks Ultimate Reed is awesome?

Yeah, he's a twisted mass murderer but he's a pretty awesome villain

[robreedwrites]

I enjoyed this. Obviously, as a Black Panther fan, it kind of sucks to see a "victory" deflated yet again. Oh well, if we get another brawl it will be with Ribic on deck, but I hope both characters bury the hatchet in the Cabal's back.

Can someone walk me through Ultimate Reed? I have the basic idea that he's an evil/fallen-from-grace version of the character, but I haven't read enough of the Ultimate stuff to really get him. Did he feature heavily in Hickman's Ultimates run?

[Double 0]

Am I the only who thinks Ultimate Reed is awesome?

Yeah, he's a twisted mass murderer but he's a pretty awesome villain

Absolutely awesome. His kill count has even eclipsed the Cabal. That's a crazy good feat.

[XPac]

While I really like this issue, does anyone else feel that they have been really short lately? Last New Avengers issue also felt really short, it seems it's all set up for Secret Wars.

Talking heads issues (something Hickman isn't exactly a stranger to) often do tend to feel short. The term decompressed gets thrown around a lot. I personally don't mind, though I understand why some aren't a fan of it.

This sort of thing tends to be read better as a whole, rather than issue by issue. In all fairness though I do think we get a few more action packed issues back to back, so I think this issue is somewhat of a breather before things pick up again.

[Double 0]

I enjoyed this. Obviously, as a Black Panther fan, it kind of sucks to see a "victory" deflated yet again. Oh well, if we get another brawl it will be with Ribic on deck, but I hope both characters bury the hatchet in the Cabal's back.

Can someone walk me through Ultimate Reed? I have the basic idea that he's an evil/fallen-from-grace version of the character, but I haven't read enough of the Ultimate stuff to really get him. Did he feature heavily in Hickman's Ultimates run?

Definitely. If there's anything you should read about Ultimate Reed Richards, it's Hickman's run.

[Cmbmool]

Ultimately, and I mean this in a literal sense, Namor has no one to blame, but himself given that it was his actions that caused T'challa to try to kill him in the first place.

Now that he's alive, thanks ironically to an alternate version of Reed Richards, it's going to be interesting to see where this feud takes us now.