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    Default Fantastic Four Appreciation 2018


    Marvel's First Family the Fantastic Four debuted in issue #1 of their self-titled comic in November of 1961 the same year that saw John F. Kennedy take the oath of office of President of the United States. Their origins are intricately tied to the birth of the Marvel Universe that we know today. From the depths of Atlantis to the Watcher's home on the Blue area of the Moon and to the fabled kingdoms of Latveria and Wakanda, the Inhuman's city fortress of Atillan and the antimatter universe of the Negative Zone, we saw the grand tapestry unfold through the eyes of these four adventurers, or Imaginauts as Mark Waid would later call them.

    When Stan and Jack weren't busy creating new characters for the FF to meet, they also made sure that any new Marvel character from another fledgling title had to make their acquaintance with Reed, Ben, Johnny and Sue. Spider-Man wanted to try out for the team. The founding members of the Avengers and the Fantastic Four joined forces to try and hunt down a wayward Hulk. Reed and Ben's former Empire State University classmate Victor Von Doom would become arguably one of Marvel's, if not comicdom's greatest villain. Johnny would have a chance meeting with a bearded stranger in a New York flop house that would lead to the return of the Golden Age anti-hero known as the Sub-Mariner. Cosmic entities like The Watcher and Galactus are on speaking terms with the Fantastic Four. Oh, and as for my mentioning JFK earlier, even President Kennedy made a cameo appearance in FF #17.

    Now on the eve of the publication of FF #587, we are told that the old order shall changeth. Not that it hasn't happened before...Ben was on the verge of giving up for good quite often before he became comfortable in his rocky skin. Reed was considered dead and was absent from the title for two years. Sue was estranged from Reed and left the team when Reed had to put power dampeners on their son Franklin. She Hulk, Luke Cage, Medusa were some of the more notable replacement members. But it always came back to the original four....until now. According to Marvel, one of them will die and the Fantastic Four title, dubbed by Stan Lee as "The World's Greatest Comic Magazine" will make way for the enigmatically titled "FF" in March of 2011. Roster changes are nothing new to titles like the Avengers or the X-Men but with the FF it's always different, more personal. It will be a loss of a family member.

    Well, I guess I will just end this opening post with a little contribution paying tribute to the work of Jack Kirby, who along with Stan Lee co-created the FF. If a picture is worth a thousand words, I think Kirby has about 10 thousand or so packed in to this ...





    -- Iron Maiden's first post of the original World's Greatest Comic Magazine thread.
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    FABULOUS FANTASTIC FOUR RUNS!
    Chronologically

    Stan Lee & Jack Kirby

    John Byrne

    Mark Waid

    Jonathan Hickman
    Matt Fraction & Bagley and Allred
    James Robinson & Leonard Kirk


    FAVORITE FANTASTIC FOUR RUNS!
    According to 5717 voters


    1 John Byrne 28.0% 1599
    2 Jonathan Hickman 24.8% 1417
    3 Stan Lee and Jack Kirby 17.4% 995
    4 Mark Waid 10.1% 579
    5 Stan Lee 6.7% 383
    6 Mark Millar 2.5% 145
    7 Walt Simonson 2.1% 119
    8 Matt Fraction 1.8% 103
    9 Chris Claremont 1.2% 67
    10 Tom DeFalco 1.1% 65
    11 J. Michael Straczynski 0.9% 50
    12 Roy Thomas 0.7% 41
    13 Karl Kesel 0.6% 33
    14 Carlos Pacheco and Rafael Marin 0.5% 29
    15 Steve Englehart 0.4% 23
    16 Marv Wolfman 0.4% 21
    17 Gerry Conway 0.3% 16
    18 Carlos Pacheco and Jeph Loeb 0.3% 15
    19 Scott Lobdell 0.2% 14
    20 Doug Moench 0.1% 3




    COLLECTED EDITIONS

    Fantastic Four Omnibus v1 Lee & Kirby
    Fantastic Four Omnibus v2 Lee & Kirby

    Fantastic Four Omnibus v1 John Bryne
    Fantastic Four Omnibus v2 John Bryne

    Fantastic Four Omnibus v1 Jonathan Hickman

    Thing () by Dan Slott
    Thing Freakshow
    Fantastic Four Unstable Molecules
    Fantastic Four 1234
    Fantastic Four True Story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Fantastic View Post
    John Byrne, who, in addition to helming unarguably one of my utmost favorite FF creative runs, also penned and illustrated what I, about 95% without hesitance, proclaim to be the FINEST FF issue and story ever conceived in FF #236/"Terror In A Tiny Town". I can't express this enough: Read FF #236 ASAP. You won't thank me enough when you do...it is THAT THOROUGHLY SPLENDID an issue/story.


    LINKS

    Jason Young's Fantastic Four 9 Project

    The Science of Reed Richards


    The Ever-Lovin Blued-Eyed Thing Appreciation


    Dr. Doom Appreciation
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    Just the thread I was looking for.

    The Fantastic Four are my favorite team and comic book in general, the few titles I'll stick with till the end.
    Currently re-reading Byrne's run and loving Robinson's.
    Not much else to say... for now at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvarez View Post
    Just the thread I was looking for.

    The Fantastic Four are my favorite team and comic book in general, the few titles I'll stick with till the end.
    Currently re-reading Byrne's run and loving Robinson's.
    Not much else to say... for now at least.
    I've got the two Bryne omnibus, but haven't read those stories in a while. I'm glad to hear another fan of Robinson's run.

    From your avatar, can I assume you are a Thing fan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rheged View Post
    I've got the two Bryne omnibus, but haven't read those stories in a while. I'm glad to hear another fan of Robinson's run.

    From your avatar, can I assume you are a Thing fan?
    Reading from the old Visionaries, I've been meaning to pick up the Omnibuses though.
    Robinson has been getting a lot of flack for his few issues, but I like it. He's always been a slow builder.

    Heh, yeah. If it has The Thing in it, I'm buying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvarez View Post
    Reading from the old Visionaries, I've been meaning to pick up the Omnibuses though.
    Robinson has been getting a lot of flack for his few issues, but I like it. He's always been a slow builder.

    Heh, yeah. If it has The Thing in it, I'm buying it.
    I LOVED Marvel Two In One back in the day. I think that's out in Marvel Masterworks ... I should look into that.

    I've been enjoying Robinson and Kirk on Fantastic Four so far. I hope they both stay for a long run.

    The Omnibus have their pluses and minus. They ARE heavy, and not scan friendly at all. But BIG pictures. Plus some of them have been re-mastered. I'll have to see if I can find that post where someone compared the MMW and the Omnibus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alvarez View Post
    Just the thread I was looking for.

    The Fantastic Four are my favorite team and comic book in general, the few titles I'll stick with till the end.
    Currently re-reading Byrne's run and loving Robinson's.
    Not much else to say... for now at least.
    FANTASTIC run IMO.
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    The Fantastic Four are my favorite comic book team of all time. Great characters and they weren't just a team, they were family.
    "The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of God stands forever"--Isaiah 40:8

    “A hero can be anyone, even a man doing something as simple and reassuring as putting a coat around a little boy’s shoulder to let him know that the world hadn't ended.”--Batman

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    Default Happy 56th Birthday Ron Frenz!!!

    Loved this short lived team of Ms. Marvel, Crystal, Ben and Johnny.
    Imperius Rex!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Knight1047 View Post
    The Fantastic Four are my favorite comic book team of all time. Great characters and they weren't just a team, they were family.
    Very true!
    Imperius Rex!
    http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/.../74396-9Bk.jpg
    It's clobberin' time! Hulk is strongest one there is! Have at thee!
    http://www.tradingcarddb.com/Images/...74396-51Bk.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rheged View Post
    FABULOUS FANTASTIC FOUR RUNS!
    Chronologically

    Stan Lee & Jack Kirby

    John Byrne

    Mark Waid

    Jonathan Hickman
    Matt Fraction & Bagley and Allred
    James Robinson & Leonard Kirk


    FAVORITE FANTASTIC FOUR RUNS!
    According to 5717 voters


    1 John Byrne 28.0% 1599
    2 Jonathan Hickman 24.8% 1417
    3 Stan Lee and Jack Kirby 17.4% 995
    4 Mark Waid 10.1% 579
    5 Stan Lee 6.7% 383
    6 Mark Millar 2.5% 145
    7 Walt Simonson 2.1% 119
    8 Matt Fraction 1.8% 103
    9 Chris Claremont 1.2% 67
    10 Tom DeFalco 1.1% 65
    11 J. Michael Straczynski 0.9% 50
    12 Roy Thomas 0.7% 41
    13 Karl Kesel 0.6% 33
    14 Carlos Pacheco and Rafael Marin 0.5% 29
    15 Steve Englehart 0.4% 23
    16 Marv Wolfman 0.4% 21
    17 Gerry Conway 0.3% 16
    18 Carlos Pacheco and Jeph Loeb 0.3% 15
    19 Scott Lobdell 0.2% 14
    20 Doug Moench 0.1% 3




    COLLECTED EDITIONS

    Fantastic Four Omnibus v1 Lee & Kirby
    Fantastic Four Omnibus v2 Lee & Kirby

    Fantastic Four Omnibus v1 John Bryne
    Fantastic Four Omnibus v2 John Bryne

    Fantastic Four Omnibus v1 Jonathan Hickman

    Thing () by Dan Slott
    Thing Freakshow
    Fantastic Four Unstable Molecules
    Fantastic Four 1234
    Fantastic Four True Story

    RECOMMENDATIONS





    LINKS

    Jason Young's Fantastic Four 9 Project

    The Science of Reed Richards


    The Ever-Lovin Blued-Eyed Thing Appreciation


    Dr. Doom Appreciation
    What Millar did with the hooded man was "uncanny." I was totally surprised. And the way he wrote Johnny was much appreciated. I felt he really emphasized the Torch's speed.

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    Happy 55th Anniversary First Marvel Family 616 Fantastic Four!!! 1961-2016

    Quote Originally Posted by Rheged View Post

    Marvel's First Family the Fantastic Four debuted in issue #1 of their self-titled comic in November of 1961 the same year that saw John F. Kennedy take the oath of office of President of the United States. Their origins are intricately tied to the birth of the Marvel Universe that we know today. From the depths of Atlantis to the Watcher's home on the Blue area of the Moon and to the fabled kingdoms of Latveria and Wakanda, the Inhuman's city fortress of Atillan and the antimatter universe of the Negative Zone, we saw the grand tapestry unfold through the eyes of these four adventurers, or Imaginauts as Mark Waid would later call them.

    When Stan and Jack weren't busy creating new characters for the FF to meet, they also made sure that any new Marvel character from another fledgling title had to make their acquaintance with Reed, Ben, Johnny and Sue. Spider-Man wanted to try out for the team. The founding members of the Avengers and the Fantastic Four joined forces to try and hunt down a wayward Hulk. Reed and Ben's former Empire State University classmate Victor Von Doom would become arguably one of Marvel's, if not comicdom's greatest villain. Johnny would have a chance meeting with a bearded stranger in a New York flop house that would lead to the return of the Golden Age anti-hero known as the Sub-Mariner. Cosmic entities like The Watcher and Galactus are on speaking terms with the Fantastic Four. Oh, and as for my mentioning JFK earlier, even President Kennedy made a cameo appearance in FF #17.

    Now on the eve of the publication of FF #587, we are told that the old order shall changeth. Not that it hasn't happened before...Ben was on the verge of giving up for good quite often before he became comfortable in his rocky skin. Reed was considered dead and was absent from the title for two years. Sue was estranged from Reed and left the team when Reed had to put power dampeners on their son Franklin. She Hulk, Luke Cage, Medusa were some of the more notable replacement members. But it always came back to the original four....until now. According to Marvel, one of them will die and the Fantastic Four title, dubbed by Stan Lee as "The World's Greatest Comic Magazine" will make way for the enigmatically titled "FF" in March of 2011. Roster changes are nothing new to titles like the Avengers or the X-Men but with the FF it's always different, more personal. It will be a loss of a family member.

    Well, I guess I will just end this opening post with a little contribution paying tribute to the work of Jack Kirby, who along with Stan Lee co-created the FF. If a picture is worth a thousand words, I think Kirby has about 10 thousand or so packed in to this ...





    -- Iron Maiden's first post of the original World's Greatest Comic Magazine thread.
    The cornerstone of the Marvel Universe.
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    I'm the best there is at what I do, but what I do best isn't very nice.
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    I 'm going to post about their 55th during November as it's the month the first issue was released (and my birthday is during that month )
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    Default Which writers do you associate with a particular member?

    Which writers do you associate with a particular member of the Fantastic Four?

    Who did your definitive version of a particular member?

    For me it's:

    Byrne with Sue
    Lee/Kirby with Ben
    Hickman, Waid and Lee/Kirby with Reed
    I don't thin Johnny has had his yet, or I haven't come across them yet.
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    Byrne with Sue
    Lee/Kirby with Ben
    Hickman with Reed and Johnny (and slightly Sue as well)

    Hickman REALLY focused on Reed and did some amazing things with him. But I loved what he did with Johnny. He was no longer the wise cracking, immature young man. Hickman had him grow up and was more mature. Hickman also had his wow moments with Sue, like when she told Namor off (I can't remember the issue #).
    "The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of God stands forever"--Isaiah 40:8

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