How responsible are the heroes for their legacy cases?

[Anthony W]

In this new age of legacy how responsible do we hold the main hero of the legacy screws up? Is it even fair to do so? Or is it only right since they received the blessing from the elder hero to operate with their identity?

[XPac]

In this new age of legacy how responsible do we hold the main hero of the legacy screws up? Is it even fair to do so? Or is it only right since they received the blessing from the elder hero to operate with their identity?

It sort of depends on the degree in which the elder hero is involved. Kate Bishop and Clint had somewhat of a mentor/student relationship, so I do think in actively mentoring her he is takig some degree of responsibility for her.

But Jane did everything on her own. Thor didn't even know who Jane was for the most part, so he certainly had no real responsibility for anything he might have done.

[Anthony W]

It sort of depends on the degree in which the elder hero is involved. Kate Bishop and Clint had somewhat of a mentor/student relationship, so I do think in actively mentoring her he is takig some degree of responsibility for her.

But Jane did everything on her own. Thor didn't even know who Jane was for the most part, so he certainly had no real responsibility for anything he might have done.

All we need is for Marvel to create a legacy who then ruins it for everyone and you got yourself a crossover.

[WebLurker]

All we need is for Marvel to create a legacy who then ruins it for everyone and you got yourself a crossover.

How do you mean?

[Arsenal]

It sort of depends on the degree in which the elder hero is involved. Kate Bishop and Clint had somewhat of a mentor/student relationship, so I do think in actively mentoring her he is takig some degree of responsibility for her.

But Jane did everything on her own. Thor didn't even know who Jane was for the most part, so he certainly had no real responsibility for anything he might have done.

Basically this. The level of responsibility almost exclusively depends on how active the elder hero is involved in the legacies life.

[Frontier]

As active as the writers want them to be.

But Marvel legacies tend not to interact much, if at all, and interaction/closeness is usually assumed off-panel so that the mentor/elder hero doesn't encroach on the legacy/younger hero's adventures.

[Digifiend]

Just look at the Champions:

• Ms. Marvel - Carol didn't interact much with her at all. They didn't even meet until just before Secret Wars.
• Spider-Man - When Miles debuted in 1610, the Peter of that world was dead. Since the move to 616, Peter and Miles have been friends, but most of their interaction is off panel - they certainly interact more than what we saw in Spider-Men II and Spider-Geddon, we just don't often see it.
• Nova - When Sam debuted, Rich was trapped in the Cancerverse and presumed dead. Eventually Sam managed to rescue him. They became a duo, briefly. Then Rich got involved with the Guardians of the Galaxy, and Sam had his helmet confiscated during a Champions mission. Rich hasn't been back to Earth since then, and doesn't know what happened, meaning he and Sam have lost contact.
• Ironheart - Tony intended to mentor Riri, but he ended up in a coma during Civil War II. Afterwards, Riri found herself working independently, with the help of an AI version of Tony. By the time Tony returned to action, Riri had joined the Champions. During a Champions mission, Thanos destroyed her armour, and with it, the Tony AI. Because of Jocasta, Tony would've been unwilling to replace it. They haven't interacted since. Riri's new armour was instead built with the aid of Viv Vision.
• Brawn - Amadeus Cho and Bruce Banner were old friends. Amadeus got his powers by trying to depower Bruce. Bruce was later assassinated by Hawkeye, an apparent assisted suicide, Clint ended up getting acquitted of murder. Amadeus's Hulk went out of control, and he ended up giving up his ability to switch forms, becoming the weaker Brawn. At about the same time, Avengers No Surrender happened, in which the original Hulk was resurrected. Bruce has been on the run since then and so not interacted with Amadeus.
• Snowguard - Snowbird didn't even acknowledge their similar powers when they met, despite Amka naming herself after Snowbird and Guardian.
• Wasp - Nadia turned up on Hank's doorstep to discover he'd died (in actuality, he merged with Ultron). So she broke in and created her Wasp suit, having already recreated the Pym particle tech. When she met Janet, they hit it off right away. Janet ended up adopting the orphaned Nadia as her daughter, since Nadia was her step-daughter through her marriage to Hank.
• Viv Vision - She's Vision's daughter. As such, Vision is the Avenger with the closest relationship with the Champions. He even took Snowguard in as a lodger, Viv having brought Amka to the US while Vision was out of commission after No Surrender.
• Falcon - Joaquin operated as Sam's sidekick, so they have a close relationship. Joaquin also inherited Redwing from Sam, as the bird was partially responsible for Joaquin's powers.
• Patriot - Rayshaun also operated as Sam's sidekick. Sam took him on just before he quit being Captain America.
• Bombshell - Lana's mother, who uses the same codename, is a villain, so they're estranged.