Racial Artwork in Punisher # 15

[robreedwrites]

Forget about size of the lips . . . are his lips normally that color?

I don't have the book, just the sample pages, but in this scene (ie, in other panels with this lighting), his lips do appear to be colored that way. It makes more sense visually when his lips aren't so offensively large, as the entire scene has the murky green tint.

[Of Atlantis]

What the hell? I feel it has to be a colorist mistake. Do editors even work at Marvel anymore?

Anyone have scans of the character from other parts of the book to compare?

[XPac]

Yeah, probably just a coloring mistake.

Still, not exactly the best time of year to make a mistake like that.

[robreedwrites]

What the hell? I feel it has to be a colorist mistake. Do editors even work at Marvel anymore?

Anyone have scans of the character from other parts of the book to compare?

The sample page in Comixology that contains the panel in question:

[Random4]

The sample page in Comixology that contains the panel in question:

whose the black guy is that a friend/rival of frank or something?

[Expletive Deleted]

Forget about size of the lips . . . are his lips normally that color?

Apparently? Here's the full page from the preview, to put that panel in context.

EDIT: Already posted, nevermind.

I kind of see what the colorist is trying to do with the palette, but it doesn't work, here.

whose the black guy is that a friend/rival of frank or something?

He's a member of the Howling Commandos black ops squad that's been chasing Frank through this current series. Future solicits imply that they'll eventually team up.

[robreedwrites]

From Punisher #14:


From Punisher #10 (not this character, but of other Black characters):


And some of his work from the independent book The Activity#4:


So this is probably a coloring and editorial mishap more than Mitch Gerads. Still an offensive image.

[Of Atlantis]

The sample page in Comixology that contains the panel in question:

He doesn't look nearly as bad in the first panel, though it's an odd colour pallet choice.

Poor artwork all around on the panel in question really.

[robreedwrites]

He doesn't look nearly as bad in the first panel, though it's an odd colour pallet choice.

Poor artwork all around on the panel in question really.

Agreed on the palette. I think they're trying to portray someone with fuller lips in the first panel, and coloring-wise, sometimes people differentiate the lips by making them lighter or darker, but when you go darker, it sometimes makes people look like they're wearing lipstick, so with men you go lighter.

Does anyone know who the editor is on Punisher?

[Iron Maiden]

That bottom panel does look like a colorist's mistake and when you zoom in on it, it is really very bizarre. It looks like a bad collagan lip job that many of these aging Hollywood starlets get.

[Kieran_Frost]

WOW! Just... wow! HOW did this get past the editor? HOW was this not picked up by anyone from the drawing all the way to print!

[ThiefHookUps]

The upper lip has a divet from the philtrum drawn in it so why would this be a coloring mistake? Would the colorist have drawn in the divet?

[Sardorim]

It isn't on the cover and Punisher doesn't sell as much.

[WestPhillyPunisher]

It isn't on the cover and Punisher doesn't sell as much.

In other words, much ado about nothing. Move along, folks.

[Iron Maiden]

In other words, much ado about nothing. Move along, folks.

And there are some people that do have been lips, black and white. Some have their lips augmented by cosmetic procedures but it is mostly female caucasian socialites and movie stars. Maybe its due to lip envy. LOL.