A new interview with J.H. Williams III:
He talks about Batwoman from about 9:00 onward.
A new interview with J.H. Williams III:
He talks about Batwoman from about 9:00 onward.
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Here's some insight as to why the first arc may have left so many readers cold.
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Yeah I dont agree with that at all. Having Epting on art is a blessing. The problem is entirely on the script, the villains were uninteresting, the supporting characters were uninteresting, the setting was bland and the basic premise aka Monster Men was just awful. The Scarecrow arc already looks more promising.
Nice article, though it doesn't deal with my own disappointments. I personally thought Epting was fine, though not quite as moody as I'd hoped for (that's partly a coloring thing, too, I think). To be fair, the solicits for this first arc underwhelmed me - it's a conceptual thing - so the fact that I'm excited about the next issues based on solicits hopefully indicates I'll like the actual issues too.
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You're kinda making the author's point:
Epting did a lot of great stuff with drawing parallels through his panel structure and stuff, but his art is too "sanitized" for this type of story. Too clean. He's a great artist, and I like a lot of what he did here. And I can see why he was picked, based on his other work. But someone different may have been better.If you look at the dialogue in Batwoman Rebirth, the actual beat for beat events, and consider what those panel descriptions most likely were, it’s not hard to discern why some readers of Batwoman Rebirth find it underwhelming in its execution. The hooks are there, the specificity is present, she’s still pushing forward, but so very little of it is conveyed effectively, if at all, through the art.
Fact of the matter is, this book as heaps and tons of nuance and subtext but it’s inherently harder to “find” because of how, to be perfectly blunt, kind of sanitized Epting’s style is. The average reader won’t dig deeper into a story if the execution doesn’t draw them in, and that’s true for everything. But, at the same time, nuance and subtext isn’t the end all, be all. You can do a Batwoman story with very little, provided the text itself is executed effectively flawlessly.
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Of course, the general fandom will most likely never see the issues here as Epting’s, obviously unintentional, doing.
A lot of the stuff you claim is "boring" is based on much of the interesting stuff being subtextual... and the claim is that a lot of readers won't catch that subtext due to being hindered by Epting's art.
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Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
Fan of: Batman, Cassandra Cain, Wonder Woman, Silk, Stephanie Brown, Captain America, Hellcat, Renee Montoya, Gotham Central, King Shark
Quasi-Fan of: Aquaman, Midnighter, Superman, Catwoman, Nightwing, Green Arrow, Squadron Supreme, Red Hood
Other likes: Low, Hush, Arkham Asylum: ASHoSE, Watchmen, A-Force, Bombshells, Grayson, Unfollow
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Epting's BW Rebirth cover is up there too.
I guess I have four at the top...and then all the others.
Other favorite BW covers...?
My top three, which I'm limiting to one from each era since there are so many good ones...
Adam Hughes's variant to Detective Comics #858:
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JHWII's cover to Batwoman #1:
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And Steve Epting's Batwoman #1 (J.G. Jones's was really cool, too):
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Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
Fan of: Batman, Cassandra Cain, Wonder Woman, Silk, Stephanie Brown, Captain America, Hellcat, Renee Montoya, Gotham Central, King Shark
Quasi-Fan of: Aquaman, Midnighter, Superman, Catwoman, Nightwing, Green Arrow, Squadron Supreme, Red Hood
Other likes: Low, Hush, Arkham Asylum: ASHoSE, Watchmen, A-Force, Bombshells, Grayson, Unfollow
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Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
Fan of: Batman, Cassandra Cain, Wonder Woman, Silk, Stephanie Brown, Captain America, Hellcat, Renee Montoya, Gotham Central, King Shark
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By Grace Kim:
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By Key Stuber:
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By Matias O. Arbon:
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Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
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I love the JHW3 Batwoman #0. It just pops out of the page with its overly stylistic art and the masterful use of colors and fonts.
By Tiffani King:
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By Ben Allen:
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By Costanza Bertani:
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Mega fan of: Helena Bertinelli (pre-52), Batwoman, Birds of Prey, Guardians of the Galaxy, Secret Six
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Quasi-Fan of: Aquaman, Midnighter, Superman, Catwoman, Nightwing, Green Arrow, Squadron Supreme, Red Hood
Other likes: Low, Hush, Arkham Asylum: ASHoSE, Watchmen, A-Force, Bombshells, Grayson, Unfollow
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