Kate Kane: Batwoman Appreciation 2018

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By @pseudofolio on Twitter:

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By Fabian Lelay:

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By Jonathan Reyes:

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[Vworp Vworp]

I honestly don't get how you can say this. I feel like I'm watching a completely seperate filmography from everyone else.

It works both ways. Perhaps even moreso from my perspective. I can see from your posts on here that you're a huge Batwoman fan and so I'm genuinely surprised you think someone of Rose's extremely limited range could do any kind of justice to Kate.

For me, this casting is selling Kate short by a long way. As a character, she deserves so much better. But hey, the same can be said of Supergirl in terms of the writing on that show for the last two years, so I guess it's par for the course on the CW anyway!

[Raijin]

You're right, it's not easy. And done well, it can lead to a phenomenal performance. Just look at Sally Hawkins in The Shape of Water for evidence of that.

But Rose's portrayal of Ares wasn't that. It was... alright. But this wasn't a performance that gained something more by the absence of dialogue. Instead, it was merely a slight improvement on her other roles, purely because she did not have any lines.

Actresses who were supposedly bad, average, etc have been known to turn in great performances. I know this is out of the question with ALL fandom but you gotta learn how to give things a chance. I feel like a true comic fan would want to see what she can actually bring to the table.

Some of the comments against her have been disgusting, which makes me support the casting more.

[Caivu]

I can see from your posts on here that you're a huge Batwoman fan and so I'm genuinely surprised you think someone of Rose's extremely limited range could do any kind of justice to Kate.

Because I don't think she has an "extremely limited range". That doesn't mean I think she's Oscar or Emmy material, just that she's capable. As Rucka said, CW!Kate's portrayal will come down to how she's written, and I pretty much agree.

For me, this casting is selling Kate short by a long way. As a character, she deserves so much better.

I don't entirely disagree with this, believe it or not. RR wasn't even in my top 10 picks for this role. But neither was she ever someone I absolutely didn't want.

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Actresses who were supposedly bad, average, etc have been known to turn in great performances. I know this is out of the question with ALL fandom but you gotta learn how to give things a chance. I feel like a true comic fan would want to see what she can actually bring to the table.

Alternately, going in with enormously (and to be fair, justifiably) low expectations at least means we won't be disappointed.

[Vworp Vworp]

As Rucka said, CW!Kate's portrayal will come down to how she's written, and I pretty much agree.

That much may be true. If Kate's written as a one-dimensional character with little to no depth, Rose will probably be fine.

[Osiris-Rex]

Ruby Rose seemed personable enough in the Jimmy Fallon interview so I don't see the problem. Maybe is was more a case of her getting crappy roles and bad writing than lack of talent.
And even if it is her, she can't be any worse than Stephen Amell and Arrow is still reasonably enjoyable.

[Caivu]

That much may be true. If Kate's written as a one-dimensional character with little to no depth, Rose will probably be fine.

You don't have to be snarky (just generally speaking, I am well beyond tired of reading that kinda crap over the past few days). You know that's not what he meant.

[Immortal Weapon]

As Rucka said, CW!Kate's portrayal will come down to how she's written, and I pretty much agree.

I disagree. Good writing can't save a bad performance.

I'm not familiar with Ruby Rose work so I can't say anything definitive about her.

[Caivu]

I disagree. Good writing can't save a bad performance.

What I think both Rucka and I (but at least I) mean by this is that Kate should be written recognizably. If her adapted self strays too far from her established character, I don't care if she were played by my top picks for the role, even if the performance given were stellar.

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By J.H. Williams III:

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By winterStorm42 on DA:

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What I think both Rucka and I (but at least I) mean by this is that Kate should be written recognizably. If her adapted self strays too far from her established character, I don't care if she were played by my top picks for the role, even if the performance given were stellar.

Unrecognizable is par the course with the Arrowverse. Ollie, Laurel, Mr. Terrific, Ray Palmer and a couple I'm forgetting are nothing like their comic counterparts. It's something I'm bracing myself for. It's why I wish she had appeared in Gotham instead.