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[Thomas Crown]

Also, it's reported by boxofficemojo that Suicide Squad has just ended it's theatrical run at $325,100,054 domestic and $745,600,054 worldwide. The digital release for Suicide Squad is this Tuesday the 15th. So yeah, go Skwad.

I'm waiting for the final international numbers. Last time they were updated on BoxOfficeMojo site was almost three weeks ago.

[Atlanta96]

Birds of Prey means Oracle, not Batgirl. Anyways more Margot is always good news. So is Black Canary and Babs.

Well, it's called Batgirl and the Birds of Prey now.

[batnbreakfast]

Well, it's called Batgirl and the Birds of Prey now.

The Dixon era reprints are my cup of the tea, post Infinite Crisis BoP not so much. Fingers crossed for an adaptation of the former (with HQ thrown in) but do not really care as long as the movie is good.

[Mr. Mastermind]

The World Needs The Man of Steel & DCEU Now More Than Ever

http://screenrant.com/dceu-movies-su...-trump-brexit/

Not seeing it. From what little we can tell about Snyder's political views is that he's a fan of Ayn Rand, which is a different type of reactionary politics to the wave of neo-nationalism, but it doesn't make these films relevant to anyone. Rand is a joke to anyone outside of the US and only popular among American conservatives who almost all voted for Trump.

Looking at these films from a classical liberal perspective makes them seem weird. Was Krypton meant to be Snyder's dystopian vision of a socialist society?

[Powertool]

Not seeing it. From what little we can tell about Snyder's political views is that he's a fan of Ayn Rand, which is a different type of reactionary politics to the wave of neo-nationalism, but it doesn't make these films relevant to anyone. Rand is a joke to anyone outside of the US and only popular among American conservatives who almost all voted for Trump.

I could write that wanting to remake King Vidor's "The Fountainhead" is not the same thing as being a fan of Ayn Rand...

I could write that Ayn Rand heavily criticised the production design of the original movie (which, being a film about an architect and his vision, is a disproportionately important aspect of the whole endeavour) since designer Edward Carrere flat out ignored Rand's caveat that Roark's projects should have been inspired exclusively by the works of the very American F.L.Wright in favour of an International Style look...

I could write that "The Fountainhead" has undergone a vast reappraising process from all sides of the political spectrum and is in fact held in better esteem nowadays than in the time it was originally released, especially by the "Left"...

Looking at these films from a classical liberal perspective makes them seem weird. Was Krypton meant to be Snyder's dystopian vision of a socialist society?

But after reading the absolutely logical conclusion in the last line of your post, I think it wouldn't be worth the effort.

[LordTrump]

So Snyder likes Rand now so we should hate him more? I bet he also voted for Trump, is a sexist homophobic murderer, and eats live puppies. Guy can't catch a break......

[capNthor]

I've talked with two people who grew up with Snyder, and he's definitely an interesting cat! Apparently very nice, just has some beliefs ignorant folk would latch onto. Definitely has a Randian sensibility judging purely on his film catalog, but so what. Ditko was waaay more Randian, although Stan Lee definitely was able to rein him in. Post Marvel work like Mr. A was just insane. Snyder could craft a powerful political, even spiritual message in his film, but I don't get the sense that's what he's most into in terms of his filmmaking.

Those distraught over Trump's election expecting a liberal response from Snyder's work in the DCU should be careful what they wish for, because Snyder clearly has much more conservative tendencies and his artistic response to the election wouldn't be what these folks have in mind. I'd be down to see it though since Hollywood films almost always have a liberal agenda and it would be refreshing to see a stroll down the other aisle. Doubt WB wants him to stick around after JL, however, and that fim wrapped before the election got dirty.

[Mr. Mastermind]

I could write that wanting to remake King Vidor's "The Fountainhead" is not the same thing as being a fan of Ayn Rand...

He doesn't really specify in the interview whether it's an adaptation or remake and just praises the story of The Fountainhead as a whole.

But after reading the absolutely logical conclusion in the last line of your post, I think it wouldn't be worth the effort.

That's not exactly a ridiculous analysis of Man of Steel. Krypton is bad because it's not individualist, Rand supporters hate socialism because it's not individualist, Snyder wants to make a movie from an Ayn Rand book which might indicate he's a Rand supporter.

The way Snyder directed Rorschach as "cool" in Watchmen backs this up. He's meant to be Moore's attack of right wing nutters not a "cool" character.

So Snyder likes Rand now so we should hate him more? I bet he also voted for Trump, is a sexist homophobic murderer, and eats live puppies. Guy can't catch a break......

I didn't say you should hate Snyder for his political views, just saying they aren't relevant responses to nationalism. You should hate Snyder's films for being a crappy series of music videos with no sense of logic to them.

Plenty of great directors are horrible in real life and have politics I don't agree with. My problem with Snyder has nothing to do with either (I have no reason to believe he's a bad person in real life anyway)

[Powertool]

He doesn't really specify in the interview whether it's an adaptation or remake and just praises the story of The Fountainhead as a whole.

Still, The Fountainhead as a movie was put in the thinly populated column of "adaptations that are better than the original" by Emanuel Levy (not exactly an ardent objectivist or a Trump supporter) and, ideology notwithstanding, the production design was absolutely impressive, a particular that surely wasn't lost to a visual storyteller the likes of Z. Snyder.

That's not exactly a ridiculous analysis of Man of Steel. Krypton is bad because it's not individualist, Rand supporters hate socialism because it's not individualist, Snyder wants to make a movie from an Ayn Rand book which might indicate he's a Rand supporter.

Krypton is bad because thousands of years of genetical engineering meant to partition the Kryptonian populace into ultra-specialised sectors in the hope to make society more functional has progressively destroyed values like collaboration, sense of priorities and intellectual flexibility. The Kryptonian civilisation can only face its own distruction because its various factions have lost any sense of commonality and just want their narrow worldview to be the only one. While this last sentence represents a critic that could in fact be applied to the worldwide Left and be very on-point, it's not exactly a propaganda piece about the evils of Socialism.

The way Snyder directed Rorschach as "cool" in Watchmen backs this up. He's meant to be Moore's attack of right wing nutters not a "cool" character.

An absurdly angry hobo with psychopathic tendencies is cool nowadays? Oh well, there's no accounting for taste after all. And don't tell me that's not how Rorschach is represented in Snyder's Watchmen because that would be the biggest of lies!

[Clark_Kent]

The SS Extended Cut is now available digitally. Just got done watching it, damn that was fun (I really enjoyed the theatrical, but this was even better).

Also, you get more time with Leto's Joker...damn, he's so good here. Lots more meat in his role with this cut.

[Black_Adam]

I agree the new Joker stuff is cool but it is like 2 extra minutes. Seems like Joker is in the special features more then the actual movie... Combine that with the fact they again used material not in the actual film to advertise the EC. They know Joker sells and I think it is a really s***, deceptive and dishonest thing to do from the advertisers.

And how ironic they even badly edited his one new scene, it just kinda ends abruptly, like the editors learned absolutely nothing from the Theatrical Cut. They cut that, still no "Bye-Bye!" scene, loads more to the Arkham scene still missing, the extended Van Criss facility attack where Joker beats the guard, little things which would of been cool and would of barely effected the run time at all, all on the cutting room floor for no apparent reason.

I'll never understand what amateurs edited this film.

[batnbreakfast]

I agree the new Joker stuff is cool but it is like 2 extra minutes. Seems like Joker is in the special features more then the actual movie... Combine that with the fact they again used material not in the actual film to advertise the EC. They know Joker sells and I think it is a really s***, deceptive and dishonest thing to do from the advertisers.

And how ironic they even badly edited his one new scene, it just kinda ends abruptly, like the editors learned absolutely nothing from the Theatrical Cut. They cut that, still no "Bye-Bye!" scene, loads more to the Arkham scene still missing, the extended Van Criss facility attack where Joker beats the guard, little things which would of been cool and would of barely effected the run time at all, all on the cutting room floor for no apparent reason.

I'll never understand what amateurs edited this film.

Should the director not oversee the editing? How much influence does he have left at this point?

[Clark_Kent]

I guess I'm taking a "it's better than nothing" approach to it...2 or 3 minutes extra is more than we got in August. Considering the popularity of the film, they could have just left it alone. I'm pleased with what we got, even if I did want more.

[Nite-Wing]

2-3 minutes more of Joker is fine
I was hoping for some more nuanced scenes about Harley's origin and the other characters to show some character I kinda got that

[BatmanJones]

So Snyder likes Rand now so we should hate him more?

Sorry, but yes. Absolutely. Maybe you haven't read Rand but anyone that subscribes to her writings shouldn't be anywhere near superheroes.