MCU "Americrew" vs Cassandra Cain

[heretic]

Captain America, The Falcon, The Black Widow and The Winter Soldier rush Old-School Cassandra Cain:

A) In the Arena

B) In a nighttime ambush somewhere in Gotham

[Pendaran]

If they get the drop on her and she's unaware of them, Bucky could just shoot her in the back of the head from stealth. Done.

Creamed by her in the arena though, particularly given the bullet timing reflexes+utility belt.

[Eli.C]

Yeah. Bucky and Steve might well be stronger than Cassie (What do we make of that Juggernaut impersonation Cap did in the chase scene anyway, strength, speed, esoteric shield stuff?), but there's no reason they should be able to touch her, she's operating on a level of speed that is beyond what has been seen in H2H within the MCU.

Maybe the Netflix stuff will expand in that regard.

[Pendaran]

I mean, she has well better reflexes and edged weapons, that's kinda that in a non "they just kill her from the shadows while she has no idea what's going on" situation, yeah.

[Matt the Manly]

Captain America, The Falcon, The Black Widow and The Winter Soldier rush Old-School Cassandra Cain:

A) In the Arena

B) In a nighttime ambush somewhere in Gotham

For one thing Natasha is Russian and hence not part of any "Americrew"

[The Drunkard Kid]

If they get the drop on her and she's unaware of them, Bucky could just shoot her in the back of the head from stealth. Done.

Creamed by her in the arena though, particularly given the bullet timing reflexes+utility belt.

Doesn't Classic Cass do things like dodge a sniper round to her blindspot, fired at her from surprise by David Cain?

[Matt the Manly]

Doesn't Classic Cass do things like dodge a sniper round to her blindspot, fired at her from surprise by David Cain?

Yes she did. But Winter Soldier was using stuff that blew up cars and stuff. so even if she dodges it, shes probably going to be injured badly from the area attack

This is not in the arena of course where shes going to blitz them before they can get a proper shot off

[MidTierHero]

Team wins both. They're too much for her.

[Pendaran]

Team wins both. They're too much for her.

When she's well faster than them to the point that she dodges bullets in the multiple post them being fired, why are they too much for her in the direct fight?

[Matt the Manly]

Team wins both. They're too much for her.

You need to elaborate on this.....,

Start with "how are they going to even touch her"?

[Primetime Harder]

Cass straight-up demolishes them in the Arena.

They might have a chance in the ambush scenario, but even then I really don't like their odds.

[Pendaran]

I suppose given the sniper thing their ambush scenario odds do become a bit crap, but Bucky does have explosives and such.

[The Watcher]

Arena: The team might have a chance if when the bell rings the Falcon can grab Bucky's explosives while taking off and is able to get high enough to be out of Cassie's throwing range before being taken out. Then it's a matter tiring her out by making her dodge machine gun fire repeatedly and then bombing her. But that's a mighty big "if" that depends on starting distance plus Cap, Widow and Bucky sacrificing themselves to run interference (deflecting thrown attacks and getting in the way of Cassie) being enough to give Sam the opportunity to gain enough altitude, which may or may not be the case.

Ambush: Similar strategy with better odds. Bucky and the others attack with sniper fire while Sam bombs her from on high.