I think Green Arrow would make the transition even better.
Well, Batman would have the same problem in Avengers going into space fighting aliens. It is not about the universe but about what type of stories fits best for the charafter.
Ant-man, Moon Knight, Blade, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Hulk and the list goes on. Besides mutants are humans as well.
Really appreciate the responses. The point that he almost has his own sub-universe which suits the DCU more is very good.
Yes but the Avengers aren't as mythic as the Justice League. When I think Justice League, I think "greatest heroes in the world". Avengers has freaking Hawkeye and Wasp. Although, I do agree now that Batman is a fine fit for DC, he just isn't utilized well at times
But if you look at very large majority of Marvel "human" heroes, they have a pretty useful power-set... they don't do it on training and being determined... it's all a bit more "sensible" than that. People who don't look at Captain America's power set think of him as an acrobatic strong human athlete...but his power set is way beyond that. And likes of Spider-man is very powerful (though patently nowhere near Superman level). Iron Man uses his technology to put him in high power categories...he's genuinely one of Marvel's main tanks, apart from his brain.
There's a few that allegedly just have a strong human talent...Hawkeye and Moon Knight spring to mind...but they are few and far between. (e.g. even Iron Fist has some useful powers to go along with his very extensive training.)
I actually think this is one area where Marvel's world setting is better than DC's.
But going back to original question...my gut feeling is that Batman is nothing like a typical Marvel hero.
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Saying that he's a marvel character in the DC universe is acting like Batman is just "another character" in DC and forgetting that Batman is a massive integral part of the DC Universe. Batman makes up an entire section of the DCU. He's a DC character in the DC Universe because he's not shoehorned in or a tag along, he's one of the very building blocks that make it up. If they moved him to Marvel which has already set up it's own Universe, then he'd just be a tag along and not a part that's completely built in to the very foundations of it.
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I think Gotham is much too cartoony and Dick Tracy-like to be in Marvels NYC centered universe.
Batman IS DC Comics.
He's probably the most versatile hero in comics. He can be used in virtually any kind of story - street crime, international espionage, global terrorism, supernatural, space operas, superhero teams - and he can fit in. just because he can't bench press as much as Aquaman doesn't mean he doesn't belong in the JLA. He's the ultimate Renaissance Man. He can hang with any martial artists in DC, can use gear to hang with people outside his weight class, can outthink and out plan just about anyone, but at the same time struggle to do it.
If he was in Marvel they'd ruin him, by having him start killing, or become an alcoholic, etc. Marvel wouldn't know what to do with a guy who lives up to his own moral code.
Green Arrow was the sixth member of JLA and a long standing member so I don't see a difference there. Seems like you underestamte wasp power set. She could easily be on JLA if she was a DC character.
In that sense no. But who many does DC has who has done that? I mean sure you have all the different version of Robin but they wouldn't exist without Batman. Green Arrow is the only character created on his own terms and not orbiting around Batman and the creation of GA was heavily influenced by Batman.
I read once that, at one point, there was a plan that for 6 months following the DC vs. Marvel crossover, two characters would temporarily be stuck in the other's universe: She-Hulk in DC, Hawkman in Marvel. Ultimately, it didn't work out, but one can dream.
No, is there a Marvel character that contrasts with Superman the way Batman does?
Batman and Superman's relationship is probably the best you'll see in comics between any 2 Superheroes (and I'm not talking some Cloak and Dagger crap), it's like they feed off of each other perfectly.
You won't get a character like that in Marvel.
Agreed that's it's primarily driven by Batman related characters. But jeez, there's a lot of them. It's not just the Robins, it's the Batgirls, Azrael, Batwomen, Oracle, Huntress, etc, etc.
And let's face it, in context of overall DC universe and today's story telling style it doesn't make great sense...I wouldn't give any of them a dog's chance against a skilled gunman, let alone a villain with a decent set of powers.
I have to give the writers some credit, some of them turn out decent stories in spite of the dogs breakfast story telling universe.