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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    That's fair enough.

    As far as Ock or Goblin beating Flash, at worst they can just wait until Barry gets exhausted from running out of food and has to stop. That's an explicit thing for him. And he really can't hurt these guys until then.
    Ock is a normal human with robotic arms,so idk how in the world he was able to tank spideys punches.So flash should be able to take him out atleast,given enough time.

    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    He did, being juiced on the goblin formula - he was around Peter's strength, and his best feat is like a class 60-70 (though we can perhaps call it SMvFL): With one hand, in a horrible leverage position, he held up the 40 ton Roosevelt Island Tramway car, and its 20 ton cable. Peter then caught the freaking thing while it was falling. It's a ludicrous feat for both (though still not better than the subway feat for Peter in SM2).
    HMm proly not SvsFL,considering he was able to stop that train + held that huge piece of metal at the end of spiderman 2.Id say his feats are pretty consistent.

    The rest win,flash will get tired eventually,which means the moment they get their hands on him he's dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big_adventure View Post
    That's fair enough.

    As far as Ock or Goblin beating Flash, at worst they can just wait until Barry gets exhausted from running out of food and has to stop. That's an explicit thing for him. And he really can't hurt these guys until then.
    Flash runs behind the guy at superspeed and breaks his neck, not seeing Doc Ock surviving that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buutenks View Post
    Ock is a normal human with robotic arms,so idk how in the world he was able to tank spideys punches.So flash should be able to take him out.
    Trying to apply that kind of logic doesn't work, it's a comic movie. Peter also survived 2 falls from considerable heights when his powers didn't work.
    Arrow survived a blitzing from Barry even though he also is just a 'normal human'

    Their durability is just that good, and Barry's striking power isn't. Yes, it's weird, but that's just how it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    Trying to apply that kind of logic doesn't work, it's a comic movie. Peter also survived 2 falls from considerable heights when his powers didn't work.
    Arrow survived a blitzing from Barry even though he also is just a 'normal human'

    Their durability is just that good, and Barry's striking power isn't. Yes, it's weird, but that's just how it is.
    Where's Gandalf the White when you need him.

    Points if you get the reference.
    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holacik View Post
    Flash runs behind the guy at superspeed and breaks his neck, not seeing Doc Ock surviving that.
    Well, I could accept this argument with Reverse-Flash, putting aside the durability stuff, since he has demonstrated the ability to do so. With Barry, who has been shown as an incompetent fighter so far when fighting anyone other than ordinary mooks, not so much.

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    Barry has gotten a little better now, so we can give him basic competence.

    Ock got punched and smashed by Peter so much that he just has Peter-level durability for whatever reason. You have to just spot him that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_of_R'lyeh View Post
    Where's Gandalf the White when you need him.

    Points if you get the reference.
    Please explain^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchist View Post
    Please explain^^
    The scene in the Two Towers where Gandalf in disguise as Gandalf the Grey tries to break Saruman's mind control on Theoden, and fails. Then drops his cloak revealing he's had a nice power up, and immediately wrecks Saruman's furniture.

    Basically was getting at 'where's a power up when you need it'? Also this:

    Yeah, but if you... man, we're getting into weird analogy territory, like if you disintegrated Superman's arms he wouldn't be able to go "fool! Little did you know that my arms and I are one and can be remade from me!" and will his arms back into being from pure nothingness. - Pendaran

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