New Avengers 31 *spoilers*

[dragonmp93]

Wait, are we talking about the 616 Doctor Doom ?.

[Viteh]

Wait, are we talking about the 616 Doctor Doom ?.

Seems that way, as Molecule man is with him.

[Biclopcicle]

Wait, are we talking about the 616 Doctor Doom ?.

That's the Doom that had Molecule Man take him to the "beginning"

[Username taken]

Wait, are we talking about the 616 Doctor Doom ?.

Yep................

[dragonmp93]

Seems that way, as Molecule man is with him.

That's the Doom that had Molecule Man take him to the "beginning"

Yep................

Well, at least is not one of the X-men, so yay !!!!.

[Double 0]

Well, Namor getting fammed by Dr. Doom now makes sense.

[Username taken]

I just hope that Hickman can successfully fill in the gaps he's leaving in this story.

Each issue's revelation has simply led to another set of questions being asked and we're no closer to any answers.

We know that Doom and Molecule Man went somewhere and did something but we have no idea how exactly Doom becomes the Great Destroyer. I'm not asking for all the answers immediately but I think we should be getting some more answers at this point.

[xcoijoi]

So this is why Breevort ignored my tumbler questions, about Doom being trivialized. He didn't want to let on, what was going on.

Haven't read it yet, but really looking forward to t his.

[Hariel0079]

I had spoilt myself yesterday, now that I've read the whole issue I'm a little dissapointed. Not in the reveal, I'm okay with that, but the lack of explaining. Besides Doom being The Great Destroyer we learned nothing. Nothing about who the Black Swans are, nothing about the incursions, or what Doom's plan is. The issue could have easily just been the last 4 pages.

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[robreedwrites]

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I've only read Hickman's Ultimates once. What's "The Maker" and how does it relate to Ultimate Reed?

[XPac]

It'll be interesting to see if there's actually a "good guy" between the Beyonders and Doom, or if they're both bad.

Even if Doom is a villain, he's not a killer just for the sake of being bad. If he's causing this much death, there has to be a GOOD reason for it. Presumably it has to do with stopping the Beyonders, whose agenda is pretty unclear.

Still, as far as feats go I think Doom might have suprpassed Thanos as the most uber villain. Even Starlin would have a hard time topping this.

[Biclopcicle]

Well, Namor getting fammed by Dr. Doom now makes sense.

Well, Doom wasn't Rabum Alal "yet," as far as we can tell, when Namor came for assistance regarding the cabal

[Username taken]

I had spoilt myself yesterday, now that I've read the whole issue I'm a little dissapointed. Not in the reveal, I'm okay with that, but the lack of explaining. Besides Doom being The Great Destroyer we learned nothing. Nothing about who the Black Swans are, nothing about the incursions, or what Doom's plan is. The issue could have easily just been the last 4 pages.

Exactly. It's actually becoming rather frustrating and very little value for $3.99.

[XPac]

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It's weird that Hickman did that life and death thing with Steve and Tony when both have played a relatively minor role in the story thus far. Though I suppose there's still time give them both some sort of big moment. Starks still out there trying to do something.

[Viteh]

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Yeah, saw that on 4chan too. The subtly is nice, but again, not really a reveal.