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    "Everyone knows the name Commissioner Gordon. He is one of the crime world's greatest foes, a man whose reputation is synonymous with law and order. But what is known of Gordon's story and his rise from rookie detective to Police Commissioner? What did it take to navigate the multiple layers of corruption that secretly ruled Gotham City, the spawning ground of the world's most iconic villains? And what circumstances created them – the larger-than-life personas who would become Catwoman, The Penguin, The Riddler, Two-Face and The Joker?

    GOTHAM is an origin story of the great DC Comics super villains and vigilantes, revealing an entirely new chapter that has never been told. From executive producer/writer Bruno Heller (“The Mentalist,” “Rome”), GOTHAM follows one cop's rise through a dangerously corrupt city teetering on the edge of evil and chronicles the birth of one of the most popular super heroes of our time.

    Growing up in Gotham City's surrounding suburbs, JAMES GORDON (Ben McKenzie, “Southland,” “The O.C.”) romanticized the city as a glamorous and exciting metropolis where his late father once served as a successful district attorney. Now, two weeks into his new job as a Gotham City detective and engaged to his beloved fiancée, BARBARA KEAN (Erin Richards, “Open Grave,” “Breaking In”), Gordon is living his dream – even as he hopes to restore the city back to the pure version he remembers it was as a kid.

    Brave, honest and ready to prove himself, the newly-minted detective is partnered with the brash, but shrewd police legend HARVEY BULLOCK (Donal Logue, “Sons of Anarchy,” “Terriers,” “Vikings,” “Copper”), as the two stumble upon the city's highest-profile case ever: the murder of local billionaires Thomas and Martha Wayne. At the scene of the crime, Gordon meets the sole survivor: the Waynes' hauntingly intense 12-year-old son, BRUCE (David Mazouz, “Touch”), toward whom the young detective feels an inexplicable kinship. Moved by the boy's profound loss, Gordon vows to catch the killer.

    As he navigates the often-underhanded politics of Gotham's criminal justice system, Gordon will confront imposing gang boss FISH MOONEY (Jada Pinkett Smith, “The Matrix” films, “HawthoRNe,” “Collateral”), and many of the characters who will become some of fiction's most renowned, enduring villains, including a teenaged SELINA KYLE/the future CATWOMAN (acting newcomer Camren Bicondova) and OSWALD COBBLEPOT/THE PENGUIN (Robin Lord Taylor, “The Walking Dead,” “Another Earth”).

    Although the crime drama will follow Gordon's turbulent and singular rise through the Gotham City police department, led by Police Captain SARAH ESSEN (Zabryna Guevara, “Burn Notice”), it also will focus on the unlikely friendship Gordon forms with the young heir to the Wayne fortune, who is being raised by his unflappable butler, ALFRED (Sean Pertwee, “Camelot,” “Elementary”). It is a friendship that will last them all of their lives, playing a crucial role in helping the young boy eventually become the crusader he's destined to be.

    GOTHAM is based upon characters published by DC Comics and is produced by Warner Bros. Television. Executive producer Bruno Heller (“The Mentalist”) wrote the pilot, which will be directed and executive-produced by Emmy Award nominee Danny Cannon (the “CSI” series, “Nikita”). "

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    So, I'm actually really excited for this show. I think it could be fascinatin if they show the fall of Gotham into crime starting with the murder of the Waynes, and moving forward.

    *What Villains do you want to see?

    I'd like to see a couple surprises, like Ra's al Ghul, or hints at the Court of Owls


    *Any supporting characters you want to see appear?

    I'd like appearances by Leslie Thompkins anyways, maybe a couple of those Bruce would train by later on

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    It's interesting how they've tied the Wayne's death into the descent of the city. Sometimes there are good people who are the only ones trying to keep a city going and when they get gunned down it just guts a community.

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    I'd like appearances by Leslie Thompkins anyways, maybe a couple of those Bruce would train by later on
    Maybe as an Easter Egg they could get Diana Muldaur to play Dr Thompkins since she did the voice in the animated series.
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    She's basically aged into her.

    I'd like to also see Joker as the original Red Hood. With the tuxedo and metal mask. It might work. Maybe not be so clear on who he is, like he's got a bunch of fake aliases and personas and he usually escapes jumping out windows or into rivers (as he'll try to escape batman through a vat of chemicals one day)

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    I'm still a bit wary about the main character being Jim Gordon. I realize that Bruce will obviously have a large focus in the series, but will that be enough to keep an interest in it? I've wanted another live-action Batman tv show for years, because I wanted to see a live action Batman, not a pre-teen Bruce.

    Still, I'll watch the first season and judge accordingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeP View Post
    I'm still a bit wary about the main character being Jim Gordon. I realize that Bruce will obviously have a large focus in the series, but will that be enough to keep an interest in it? I've wanted another live-action Batman tv show for years, because I wanted to see a live action Batman, not a pre-teen Bruce.

    Still, I'll watch the first season and judge accordingly.
    Yeah, I was just thinking about this recently, and though I know they want to 'keep Batman pure' for films, I just don't get it. Television seems like the perfect medium for the Batman mythos. Outside of a few villains (Man-Bat, Killer Croc, maybe Mr. Freeze) it seems like most would easily fall within a TV budget. And really, they could use Television to truly explore the Batman family, and just think of how many spin-offs ($$$) they could launch. Batwoman, Nightwing, Red Robin, Azrael, Gotham Central, Red Hood, Birds of Prey, Outsiders, even try out Batwing.

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    Excited to see Gotham when it premieres in the fall. The preview looks fantastic! Are y'all as excited to see this?

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    I am.

    looks promising.

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    Sounds interesting...but we will see!

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    I think it looks very promising. Personally, every time I see an image of Donal Logue as Bullock, I geek out. They really nailed the look of the character, and I'm excited to finally see him portrayed in live-action. Can't wait to check it out.
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    The concept has a ton of potential if executed right. Like it could be a big time show. That's said shows like Smallville have shown the pitfalls of similar ideas to that, and if it goes wrong we know exactly how and why it can go wrong.

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    The synopsis for the show, from Coming Soon.net, is as follows:

    Everyone knows the name Commissioner Gordon. He is one of the crime world's greatest foes, a man whose reputation is synonymous with law and order. But what is known of Gordon's story and his rise from rookie detective to Police Commissioner? What did it take to navigate the multiple layers of corruption that secretly ruled Gotham City, the spawning ground of the world's most iconic villains? And what circumstances created them – the larger-than-life personas who would become Catwoman, The Penguin, The Riddler, Two-Face and The Joker?

    "Gotham" is an origin story of the great DC Comics super villains and vigilantes, revealing an entirely new chapter that has never been told. From executive producer/writer Bruno Heller (“The Mentalist,” “Rome”), "Gotham" follows one cop's rise through a dangerously corrupt city teetering on the edge of evil and chronicles the birth of one of the most popular super heroes of our time.

    Growing up in Gotham City's surrounding suburbs, James Gordon (Ben McKenzie, “Southland,” “The O.C.”) romanticized the city as a glamorous and exciting metropolis where his late father once served as a successful district attorney. Now, two weeks into his new job as a Gotham City detective and engaged to his beloved fiancée, Barbara Kean (Erin Richards, Open Grave, “Breaking In”), Gordon is living his dream – even as he hopes to restore the city back to the pure version he remembers it was as a kid.

    Brave, honest and ready to prove himself, the newly-minted detective is partnered with the brash, but shrewd police legend Harvey Bullock (Donal Logue, “Sons of Anarchy,” “Terriers,” “Vikings,” “Copper”), as the two stumble upon the city's highest-profile case ever: the murder of local billionaires Thomas and Martha Wayne. At the scene of the crime, Gordon meets the sole survivor: the Waynes' hauntingly intense 12-year-old son, Bruce (David Mazouz, “Touch”), toward whom the young detective feels an inexplicable kinship. Moved by the boy's profound loss, Gordon vows to catch the killer.

    As he navigates the often-underhanded politics of Gotham's criminal justice system, Gordon will confront imposing gang boss Fish Mooney (Jada Pinkett Smith, The Matrix films, “HawthoRNe,” Collateral), and many of the characters who will become some of fiction's most renowned, enduring villains, including a teenaged Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman (acting newcomer Camren Bicondova) and Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin (Robin Lord Taylor, “The Walking Dead,” Another Earth).

    Although the crime drama will follow Gordon's turbulent and singular rise through the Gotham City police department, led by Police Captain Sarah Essen (Zabryna Guevara, “Burn Notice”), it also will focus on the unlikely friendship Gordon forms with the young heir to the Wayne fortune, who is being raised by his unflappable butler, Alfred (Sean Pertwee, "Camelot," “Elementary”). It is a friendship that will last them all of their lives, playing a crucial role in helping the young boy eventually become the crusader he's destined to be.


    A trailer for the show:





    My friend is hesitant about it, because it's, as I, or he, said, 'a Batman show without Batman', and, in a way it is, and in another way, it isn't. A show set in one of the most famous fictional cities there is, be it comic book, or otherwise. I'm mainly worried about what kind of cop James Gordon'll be, given the bloody nose Oswald Cobblepot is sporting, his plunge into the water with Gordon above, holding him roughly at the coat, all that.

    Other than that, I'm just hoping the show'll be good, and that the seeming relationship between Jim and Bruce makes sense, given that they're far from age, not related and he just has to do a job, in of solving the Waynes' murder, bringing them into justice, all that. I mean, comforting him, assuring him of catching the killer and all, is good and important, but other than maaaybe advising Alfred on getting him some counselling, giving a good number and wishing him well. If he suspects the butler of any neglect, abuse, or not being up to the job, then he'd likely have to arrange something, and make sure Bruce'd be okay from there, even if that might be a couple notches harder in Gotham, of all places.

    Not saying it's necessarily creepy, but not sure if it makes complete sense.
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    Oh yeah, and am trying to copy and paste the Gotham logo in the first post, from Google Images, but can't seem to manage it.

    Any reason this won't work?

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    The cast currently, bar anyone leaving, or being re-cast, or written out, is:

    Ben McKenzie as James Gordon, former soldier who returns to Gotham City, joining the Gotham City Police Department, with hope in his heart and good in his soul. He forms a bond with young Bruce Wayne, following the shock murder of his parents and is one of the two men investigating their murder, along with rough around the edges Harvey Bullock.

    Sean Pertwee as Alfred Pennyworth, loyal and stalwart butler of the Wayne family, who takes care of young Bruce after their deaths. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but, like Jim, also a former soldier, I believe.

    Robin Lord Taylor as Oswald Cobblepot, the future Penguin. A man bullied in his youth, trying to work his way up in the world of crime. Works for mob boss, Fish Mooney.

    Zabryna Guevara as Sarah Essen, the Captain of the Gotham City Police Department Homicide Squad and Gordons' boss.

    Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, fiancee of James Gordon and nurse/doctor in Gotham City Hospital.

    Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, the rough around the edges partner of James Gordon, also investigating the Waynes' murder. He knows what kind of city Gotham is, and isn't afraid to go certain avenues to solve a crime, or move forward.

    Jada Pinkett Smith as Fish Mooney, a mob boss in Gotham, with her own violent tendencies. Boss of Oswald Cobblepot. Like him, has her eye on the rise and ambition for more. A completely original character, created for Gotham.

    David Mazouz as Bruce Wayne, the future Batman. Pushes himself to be stronger after parents' murder, is tended to by butler Alfred Pennyworth and forms bond with (mostly) good cop, James Gordon, who swears to solve the murder and bring them to justice.

    Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle, the future Catwoman. A young, teenage and agile thief. Streetwise, with good knowledge of the city.

    Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma, the future Riddler. A crime/puzzle analyzt for GCPD, with a fondness for puzzles.

    Victoria Cartagena as Renee Montoya, a detective in the major crimes unit of the GPD.

    Andrew Stewart Jones as Crispus Allen, a detective in the GPD.

    Drew Powell as Butch Gilzean, second in command to Fish Mooney.

    Clare Foley as Ivy Pepper, the future Poison Ivy. Is a child in this, with red hair. Am unaware of story with her and plants etc, here.

    Carol Kane as Gertrud Kapelput, mother of Oswald Cobblepot.

    David Zayas as Salvatore Maroni, a mobster in Gotham. One many of you might know from The Dark Knight, played by Eric Roberts there (The Master in a Doctor Who movie).

    John Doman as Carmine Falcone, a businessman with ties to the city government. Alleged to be leaders of their largest crime syndicate in Gotham, but denies this.

    Sara Paxton, in a currently unknown role.

    Kyle Mackey as Macky, a child living on the streets.

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    Boy, this is tough. It's an interesting concept - Smallville for Batman. But it is going to take ten seasons before we even consider getting Bruce in the suit. We really need Gordon and the plots around him to be compelling or the bloom will come off the rose soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattperiolat View Post
    Boy, this is tough. It's an interesting concept - Smallville for Batman. But it is going to take ten seasons before we even consider getting Bruce in the suit. We really need Gordon and the plots around him to be compelling or the bloom will come off the rose soon.
    Heh heh. Hopefully not taking 10 Seasons, as you say, as it would be nice to see, once we've gotten used to Gordon, GCPD, Arkham, Bruce, Alfred and the villains etc, we'd have Bruce for maybe 3 Seasons as The Bat, then the Batman, then Batman, similar, perhaps, to Arrow, where it'd be The Hood, to The Arrow, possibly then to Green Arrow.

    And, 3 Seasons, like the 8th, 9th and 10th of Smallville, it which it was Red Blue Blur, regular clothes, in Superman colours. The Blur, in darker suit, with prototype S. Then, a brighter, more together costume, still as The Blur, then moving onto official costume and name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Knight View Post
    The synopsis for the show, from Coming Soon.net, is as follows:

    Everyone knows the name Commissioner Gordon. He is one of the crime world's greatest foes, a man whose reputation is synonymous with law and order. But what is known of Gordon's story and his rise from rookie detective to Police Commissioner? What did it take to navigate the multiple layers of corruption that secretly ruled Gotham City, the spawning ground of the world's most iconic villains? And what circumstances created them – the larger-than-life personas who would become Catwoman, The Penguin, The Riddler, Two-Face and The Joker?

    "Gotham" is an origin story of the great DC Comics super villains and vigilantes, revealing an entirely new chapter that has never been told. From executive producer/writer Bruno Heller (“The Mentalist,” “Rome”), "Gotham" follows one cop's rise through a dangerously corrupt city teetering on the edge of evil and chronicles the birth of one of the most popular super heroes of our time.

    Growing up in Gotham City's surrounding suburbs, James Gordon (Ben McKenzie, “Southland,” “The O.C.”) romanticized the city as a glamorous and exciting metropolis where his late father once served as a successful district attorney. Now, two weeks into his new job as a Gotham City detective and engaged to his beloved fiancée, Barbara Kean (Erin Richards, Open Grave, “Breaking In”), Gordon is living his dream – even as he hopes to restore the city back to the pure version he remembers it was as a kid.

    Brave, honest and ready to prove himself, the newly-minted detective is partnered with the brash, but shrewd police legend Harvey Bullock (Donal Logue, “Sons of Anarchy,” “Terriers,” “Vikings,” “Copper”), as the two stumble upon the city's highest-profile case ever: the murder of local billionaires Thomas and Martha Wayne. At the scene of the crime, Gordon meets the sole survivor: the Waynes' hauntingly intense 12-year-old son, Bruce (David Mazouz, “Touch”), toward whom the young detective feels an inexplicable kinship. Moved by the boy's profound loss, Gordon vows to catch the killer.

    As he navigates the often-underhanded politics of Gotham's criminal justice system, Gordon will confront imposing gang boss Fish Mooney (Jada Pinkett Smith, The Matrix films, “HawthoRNe,” Collateral), and many of the characters who will become some of fiction's most renowned, enduring villains, including a teenaged Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman (acting newcomer Camren Bicondova) and Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin (Robin Lord Taylor, “The Walking Dead,” Another Earth).

    Although the crime drama will follow Gordon's turbulent and singular rise through the Gotham City police department, led by Police Captain Sarah Essen (Zabryna Guevara, “Burn Notice”), it also will focus on the unlikely friendship Gordon forms with the young heir to the Wayne fortune, who is being raised by his unflappable butler, Alfred (Sean Pertwee, "Camelot," “Elementary”). It is a friendship that will last them all of their lives, playing a crucial role in helping the young boy eventually become the crusader he's destined to be.


    A trailer for the show:





    My friend is hesitant about it, because it's, as I, or he, said, 'a Batman show without Batman', and, in a way it is, and in another way, it isn't. A show set in one of the most famous fictional cities there is, be it comic book, or otherwise. I'm mainly worried about what kind of cop James Gordon'll be, given the bloody nose Oswald Cobblepot is sporting, his plunge into the water with Gordon above, holding him roughly at the coat, all that.

    Other than that, I'm just hoping the show'll be good, and that the seeming relationship between Jim and Bruce makes sense, given that they're far from age, not related and he just has to do a job, in of solving the Waynes' murder, bringing them into justice, all that. I mean, comforting him, assuring him of catching the killer and all, is good and important, but other than maaaybe advising Alfred on getting him some counselling, giving a good number and wishing him well. If he suspects the butler of any neglect, abuse, or not being up to the job, then he'd likely have to arrange something, and make sure Bruce'd be okay from there, even if that might be a couple notches harder in Gotham, of all places.

    Not saying it's necessarily creepy, but not sure if it makes complete sense.
    Is Sean Pertwee related to the 3rd Doctor?

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