Gotham TV Show

[The Cool Thatguy]

It's been established from the start that there hasn't been any sightings of Jeremiah since the blackout started. Without any activity on his end and the city going to hell tracking him is a bitch.

The plot doesn't seem to care too much about Leslie. I wonder where she is.

Yeah, but finding him is being treated as an after thought. Everyone in Gotham should want a piece of him. Those who like No Man's Land would want to kill him and keep that fact secret, just as much as the people who want out would want him killed/arrested.

[Immortal Weapon]

Yeah, but finding him is being treated as an after thought. Everyone in Gotham should want a piece of him. Those who like No Man's Land would want to kill him and keep that fact secret, just as much as the people who want out would want him killed/arrested.

He has to be treated as an after thought as everyone has far bigger problems to worry about. Figuring out how you survive in a lawless city takes priority over finding the clown responsible for it.

[j9ac9k]

No it doesn't. It is just a stupid plot device. In all of our history, the government has never act so.

I take it that this show is a melodrama - everything is heightened and taken to the 100th degree. It's made no bones about how grandiose it is in its representation of reality. Look at it as a dramatic metaphor if you want - a city that's over-ridden with crime, the government failing to help or even care about citizens who have fallen between the cracks, etc. They feel cut-off and forgotten. Would you rather watch how this plays out in the real world, the way it is now? That'd be depressing and not what I want to take my mind off things after a long day, but that's me.

[Captain Smith]

I would have rather seen the evolution of Batman as fighting against the villains without the obvious city taking over melodrama. A war between crime lords and a corrupt police force could have worked without the obvious collapse that would bring in massive intervention outside of Gotham law enforcement.

Just me but when plot stupidity intervenes I find it hard to follow a show.

[tabo61]

Selina beating up the mutant leader from Dark Knight Returns. Awesome!

[The Darknight Detective]

Puddin'? Now where have I heard that before?

[Osiris-Rex]

Puddin'? Now where have I heard that before?

From Harley Quinn? However this character is Ecco, not Harley Quinn. Joker had many disciples before Harley Quinn.

[Immortal Weapon]

From Harley Quinn? However this character is Ecco, not Harley Quinn. Joker had many disciples before Harley Quinn.

She's clearly the Harley expy of this show. Her outfit is a dead giveaway

[The Darknight Detective]

She's clearly the Harley expy of this show. Her outfit is a dead giveaway

Yep. Just like Jeremiah is not known as the Joker yet, Ecco isn't called Harley Quinn at this point.

[Osiris-Rex]

Yep. Just like Jeremiah is not known as the Joker yet, Ecco isn't called Harley Quinn at this point.

They are sort of the prototypes.

[Immortal Weapon]

They are sort of the prototypes.

Jeremiah isn't a prototype. He's is THE Joker. He doesn't have the name because the show isn't allowed to use it. He can't have his ironic green hair neither. His actor explains it here
https://twitter.com/cameronmonaghan/...22386437570560

They gave him dark green hair to get around the restriction

[josai21]

DC's rules on Joker/Batman in television is stupid and they should feel stupid.

[Osiris-Rex]

Jeremiah isn't a prototype. He's is THE Joker. He doesn't have the name because the show isn't allowed to use it. He can't have his ironic green hair neither. His actor explains it here
https://twitter.com/cameronmonaghan/...22386437570560

They gave him dark green hair to get around the restriction

If he isn't called Joker he isn't Joker. We know Oswald is Penguin because people call him Penguin. We know Ed is Riddler because he is called Riddler. Until someone call Jeremiah the Joker, he is just Jeremiah.

DC's rules on Joker/Batman in television is stupid and they should feel stupid.

But they can say Batman.

[Immortal Weapon]

If he isn't called Joker he isn't Joker. We know Oswald is Penguin because people call him Penguin. We know Ed is Riddler because he is called Riddler. Until someone call Jeremiah the Joker, he is just Jeremiah.



But they can say Batman.

Only there isn't a network restriction preventing Oswald from being called Penguin and Edward Riddler.

[Jokerz79]

If he isn't called Joker he isn't Joker. We know Oswald is Penguin because people call him Penguin. We know Ed is Riddler because he is called Riddler. Until someone call Jeremiah the Joker, he is just Jeremiah.



But they can say Batman.

There are always weird rules with Batman I remember in the mid 00's

You had the Nolan films with Bale and Justice League Mortal being developed with Hammer.

Smallville wasn't allowed to use Batman hence the start of the CW tradition of Green Arrow standing in for Batman.

The Batman wasn't allowed to use Scarecrow (Who there was concept art for), Ra's Al Ghul, or Two-Face because of the Nolan films it's why they created the Ethan Bennett Clayface as their Two-Face stand in.

Once Justice League became Justice League Unlimited Batman rogues were off limits due to the Batman series.

So yeah them being allowed to allude to Joker but not saying Joker while using other characters is very normal.