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    Quote Originally Posted by Vibranium View Post
    this could be a really solid show (especially if they lean on the procedural parts) its got a solid cast and IMO should take notes from long running shows like Law and Order and NCIS
    I think that's one of the hurdles that the show faces. It may be great procedural show but I guarantee people will complain that it isn't a super hero show. Smallville and Agents of SHIELD both suffered from this. Smallville was a teen drama and Agents of SHIELD is a spy show but given the settings & characters involved the shows caught/catch grief for not being superhero-ey enough.

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    yet Smallville lasted 10 seasons and SHIELD did manage a renewal once it got its legs under it

    they will get more viewers as a procedural/Grimm type hybrid then a "super heroey" type show...at least for the first season or two...you gotta ease people into it

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    The synopsis for the show, from Coming Soon.net, is as follows:

    Everyone knows the name Commissioner Gordon. He is one of the crime world's greatest foes, a man whose reputation is synonymous with law and order. But what is known of Gordon's story and his rise from rookie detective to Police Commissioner? What did it take to navigate the multiple layers of corruption that secretly ruled Gotham City, the spawning ground of the world's most iconic villains? And what circumstances created them – the larger-than-life personas who would become Catwoman, The Penguin, The Riddler, Two-Face and The Joker?

    "Gotham" is an origin story of the great DC Comics super villains and vigilantes, revealing an entirely new chapter that has never been told. From executive producer/writer Bruno Heller (“The Mentalist,” “Rome”), "Gotham" follows one cop's rise through a dangerously corrupt city teetering on the edge of evil and chronicles the birth of one of the most popular super heroes of our time.

    Growing up in Gotham City's surrounding suburbs, James Gordon (Ben McKenzie, “Southland,” “The O.C.”) romanticized the city as a glamorous and exciting metropolis where his late father once served as a successful district attorney. Now, two weeks into his new job as a Gotham City detective and engaged to his beloved fiancée, Barbara Kean (Erin Richards, Open Grave, “Breaking In”), Gordon is living his dream – even as he hopes to restore the city back to the pure version he remembers it was as a kid.

    Brave, honest and ready to prove himself, the newly-minted detective is partnered with the brash, but shrewd police legend Harvey Bullock (Donal Logue, “Sons of Anarchy,” “Terriers,” “Vikings,” “Copper”), as the two stumble upon the city's highest-profile case ever: the murder of local billionaires Thomas and Martha Wayne. At the scene of the crime, Gordon meets the sole survivor: the Waynes' hauntingly intense 12-year-old son, Bruce (David Mazouz, “Touch”), toward whom the young detective feels an inexplicable kinship. Moved by the boy's profound loss, Gordon vows to catch the killer.

    As he navigates the often-underhanded politics of Gotham's criminal justice system, Gordon will confront imposing gang boss Fish Mooney (Jada Pinkett Smith, The Matrix films, “HawthoRNe,” Collateral), and many of the characters who will become some of fiction's most renowned, enduring villains, including a teenaged Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman (acting newcomer Camren Bicondova) and Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin (Robin Lord Taylor, “The Walking Dead,” Another Earth).

    Although the crime drama will follow Gordon's turbulent and singular rise through the Gotham City police department, led by Police Captain Sarah Essen (Zabryna Guevara, “Burn Notice”), it also will focus on the unlikely friendship Gordon forms with the young heir to the Wayne fortune, who is being raised by his unflappable butler, Alfred (Sean Pertwee, "Camelot," “Elementary”). It is a friendship that will last them all of their lives, playing a crucial role in helping the young boy eventually become the crusader he's destined to be.


    A trailer for the show:





    My friend is hesitant about it, because it's, as I, or he, said, 'a Batman show without Batman', and, in a way it is, and in another way, it isn't. A show set in one of the most famous fictional cities there is, be it comic book, or otherwise. I'm mainly worried about what kind of cop James Gordon'll be, given the bloody nose Oswald Cobblepot is sporting, his plunge into the water with Gordon above, holding him roughly at the coat, all that.

    Other than that, I'm just hoping the show'll be good, and that the seeming relationship between Jim and Bruce makes sense, given that they're far from age, not related and he just has to do a job, in of solving the Waynes' murder, bringing them into justice, all that. I mean, comforting him, assuring him of catching the killer and all, is good and important, but other than maaaybe advising Alfred on getting him some counselling, giving a good number and wishing him well. If he suspects the butler of any neglect, abuse, or not being up to the job, then he'd likely have to arrange something, and make sure Bruce'd be okay from there, even if that might be a couple notches harder in Gotham, of all places.

    Not saying it's necessarily creepy, but not sure if it makes complete sense.
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    Default Another Gotham Trailer



    Oh yeah, and am trying to copy and paste the Gotham logo in the first post, from Google Images, but can't seem to manage it.

    Any reason this won't work?

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    The cast currently, bar anyone leaving, or being re-cast, or written out, is:

    Ben McKenzie as James Gordon, former soldier who returns to Gotham City, joining the Gotham City Police Department, with hope in his heart and good in his soul. He forms a bond with young Bruce Wayne, following the shock murder of his parents and is one of the two men investigating their murder, along with rough around the edges Harvey Bullock.

    Sean Pertwee as Alfred Pennyworth, loyal and stalwart butler of the Wayne family, who takes care of young Bruce after their deaths. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but, like Jim, also a former soldier, I believe.

    Robin Lord Taylor as Oswald Cobblepot, the future Penguin. A man bullied in his youth, trying to work his way up in the world of crime. Works for mob boss, Fish Mooney.

    Zabryna Guevara as Sarah Essen, the Captain of the Gotham City Police Department Homicide Squad and Gordons' boss.

    Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, fiancee of James Gordon and nurse/doctor in Gotham City Hospital.

    Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, the rough around the edges partner of James Gordon, also investigating the Waynes' murder. He knows what kind of city Gotham is, and isn't afraid to go certain avenues to solve a crime, or move forward.

    Jada Pinkett Smith as Fish Mooney, a mob boss in Gotham, with her own violent tendencies. Boss of Oswald Cobblepot. Like him, has her eye on the rise and ambition for more. A completely original character, created for Gotham.

    David Mazouz as Bruce Wayne, the future Batman. Pushes himself to be stronger after parents' murder, is tended to by butler Alfred Pennyworth and forms bond with (mostly) good cop, James Gordon, who swears to solve the murder and bring them to justice.

    Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle, the future Catwoman. A young, teenage and agile thief. Streetwise, with good knowledge of the city.

    Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma, the future Riddler. A crime/puzzle analyzt for GCPD, with a fondness for puzzles.

    Victoria Cartagena as Renee Montoya, a detective in the major crimes unit of the GPD.

    Andrew Stewart Jones as Crispus Allen, a detective in the GPD.

    Drew Powell as Butch Gilzean, second in command to Fish Mooney.

    Clare Foley as Ivy Pepper, the future Poison Ivy. Is a child in this, with red hair. Am unaware of story with her and plants etc, here.

    Carol Kane as Gertrud Kapelput, mother of Oswald Cobblepot.

    David Zayas as Salvatore Maroni, a mobster in Gotham. One many of you might know from The Dark Knight, played by Eric Roberts there (The Master in a Doctor Who movie).

    John Doman as Carmine Falcone, a businessman with ties to the city government. Alleged to be leaders of their largest crime syndicate in Gotham, but denies this.

    Sara Paxton, in a currently unknown role.

    Kyle Mackey as Macky, a child living on the streets.

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    Boy, this is tough. It's an interesting concept - Smallville for Batman. But it is going to take ten seasons before we even consider getting Bruce in the suit. We really need Gordon and the plots around him to be compelling or the bloom will come off the rose soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Knight View Post
    The synopsis for the show, from Coming Soon.net, is as follows:

    Everyone knows the name Commissioner Gordon. He is one of the crime world's greatest foes, a man whose reputation is synonymous with law and order. But what is known of Gordon's story and his rise from rookie detective to Police Commissioner? What did it take to navigate the multiple layers of corruption that secretly ruled Gotham City, the spawning ground of the world's most iconic villains? And what circumstances created them – the larger-than-life personas who would become Catwoman, The Penguin, The Riddler, Two-Face and The Joker?

    "Gotham" is an origin story of the great DC Comics super villains and vigilantes, revealing an entirely new chapter that has never been told. From executive producer/writer Bruno Heller (“The Mentalist,” “Rome”), "Gotham" follows one cop's rise through a dangerously corrupt city teetering on the edge of evil and chronicles the birth of one of the most popular super heroes of our time.

    Growing up in Gotham City's surrounding suburbs, James Gordon (Ben McKenzie, “Southland,” “The O.C.”) romanticized the city as a glamorous and exciting metropolis where his late father once served as a successful district attorney. Now, two weeks into his new job as a Gotham City detective and engaged to his beloved fiancée, Barbara Kean (Erin Richards, Open Grave, “Breaking In”), Gordon is living his dream – even as he hopes to restore the city back to the pure version he remembers it was as a kid.

    Brave, honest and ready to prove himself, the newly-minted detective is partnered with the brash, but shrewd police legend Harvey Bullock (Donal Logue, “Sons of Anarchy,” “Terriers,” “Vikings,” “Copper”), as the two stumble upon the city's highest-profile case ever: the murder of local billionaires Thomas and Martha Wayne. At the scene of the crime, Gordon meets the sole survivor: the Waynes' hauntingly intense 12-year-old son, Bruce (David Mazouz, “Touch”), toward whom the young detective feels an inexplicable kinship. Moved by the boy's profound loss, Gordon vows to catch the killer.

    As he navigates the often-underhanded politics of Gotham's criminal justice system, Gordon will confront imposing gang boss Fish Mooney (Jada Pinkett Smith, The Matrix films, “HawthoRNe,” Collateral), and many of the characters who will become some of fiction's most renowned, enduring villains, including a teenaged Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman (acting newcomer Camren Bicondova) and Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin (Robin Lord Taylor, “The Walking Dead,” Another Earth).

    Although the crime drama will follow Gordon's turbulent and singular rise through the Gotham City police department, led by Police Captain Sarah Essen (Zabryna Guevara, “Burn Notice”), it also will focus on the unlikely friendship Gordon forms with the young heir to the Wayne fortune, who is being raised by his unflappable butler, Alfred (Sean Pertwee, "Camelot," “Elementary”). It is a friendship that will last them all of their lives, playing a crucial role in helping the young boy eventually become the crusader he's destined to be.


    A trailer for the show:





    My friend is hesitant about it, because it's, as I, or he, said, 'a Batman show without Batman', and, in a way it is, and in another way, it isn't. A show set in one of the most famous fictional cities there is, be it comic book, or otherwise. I'm mainly worried about what kind of cop James Gordon'll be, given the bloody nose Oswald Cobblepot is sporting, his plunge into the water with Gordon above, holding him roughly at the coat, all that.

    Other than that, I'm just hoping the show'll be good, and that the seeming relationship between Jim and Bruce makes sense, given that they're far from age, not related and he just has to do a job, in of solving the Waynes' murder, bringing them into justice, all that. I mean, comforting him, assuring him of catching the killer and all, is good and important, but other than maaaybe advising Alfred on getting him some counselling, giving a good number and wishing him well. If he suspects the butler of any neglect, abuse, or not being up to the job, then he'd likely have to arrange something, and make sure Bruce'd be okay from there, even if that might be a couple notches harder in Gotham, of all places.

    Not saying it's necessarily creepy, but not sure if it makes complete sense.
    Is Sean Pertwee related to the 3rd Doctor?

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    Iirc he's his son, and I hope that they don't make Gordon's fiancé one of Renee Montoya's ex-girlfriends, just to much trying to tie everyone together for starters. And I think that they said that the end of the show would be the day that Bruce first put on the cape and cowl and became Batman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattperiolat View Post
    Boy, this is tough. It's an interesting concept - Smallville for Batman. But it is going to take ten seasons before we even consider getting Bruce in the suit. We really need Gordon and the plots around him to be compelling or the bloom will come off the rose soon.
    Heh heh. Hopefully not taking 10 Seasons, as you say, as it would be nice to see, once we've gotten used to Gordon, GCPD, Arkham, Bruce, Alfred and the villains etc, we'd have Bruce for maybe 3 Seasons as The Bat, then the Batman, then Batman, similar, perhaps, to Arrow, where it'd be The Hood, to The Arrow, possibly then to Green Arrow.

    And, 3 Seasons, like the 8th, 9th and 10th of Smallville, it which it was Red Blue Blur, regular clothes, in Superman colours. The Blur, in darker suit, with prototype S. Then, a brighter, more together costume, still as The Blur, then moving onto official costume and name.

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    Also, some nice news on Gotham dropped today, which a fair few of you may well be interested in:

    http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/02/netflix-gotham-fox/

    Hope that helps those of you that don't have Channel Five, in UK, or Fox, in US, etc.

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    http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/09/go...new-fall-show/

    Gotham has been deemed the most promising new show for the Season, along with observations and opinions on some other shows, new and old.

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    I just hope people give it a chance to be itself instead of constantly thinking Batman will somehow show up and trying to concoct some way for it to happen.

    The show is gonna do what it's gonna do (and it looks interesting to me)
    There's a 22 minute look at Gotham and it's production on Hulu:
    http://www.hulu.com/watch/677819

    They certainly put a lot of effort into the design.
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    I was skeptical about watching a show about Gotham pre-Batman but after watching the behind the scenes footage it looks like its going to be an interesting show. Plus Jada Pinkett >>>>

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacegoatpurrp View Post
    I was skeptical about watching a show about Gotham pre-Batman but after watching the behind the scenes footage it looks like its going to be an interesting show. Plus Jada Pinkett >>>>
    Yeah. Was hoping she'd be good in it, good mob boss, original character, all that, and Penguin under thumb.

    But, not super imposed for most part by different promotional footage, here or there, and hope I can take her seriously as a threat, or as a character.

    Only know the actor as the voice of Gloria the hippo in the Madagascar franchise, from Dreamworks, which wouldn't be the best way to judge her for here.


    Also, truth be told, this is the new comic show I'm most excited about, with Constantine next to it and so on.

    Asking my Dad every day how many more days until 22nd, just so the wait'll be that bit shorter, knowing how far away it is, etc.

    So looking forward, and Sleepy Hollow back the same day. Treat and tricks.

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    http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/15/be...nzie-gotham-2/

    Ben McKenzie, James Gordon, talking about Gotham.

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