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    Quote Originally Posted by saul_on_the_road_to_damascus View Post
    Good wow or bad wow?
    Good for sure. Like how they just went ahead and got the Bruce Wayne stuff out of the way too.

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    Catwoman witnessing the origin of Batman is just stupid.... The little girls name is Pamela not Ivy!!!!!
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    Just finished watching the first episode of Gotham. Disappointed would probably be the best word to describe how I feel. I honestly do not care for the actors they got to play Gordon and Bullock. Sure they are good actors in their own right but they just do not feel like the characters to me. I will watch a few more episodes but I do not have high hopes for this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edhopper View Post
    You mean like a show about Clark Kent in High School? How could that be any good?
    It was good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeP View Post
    They could still portray Clark with his powers. Basically still a Superman show. That can't happen in Gotham.
    You nailed it! The show should have been about a young Bruce Wayne just becoming a bad ass - but he hides it by pretending he is a bad boy living off his parent's money without supervision. He meets bad girls, good girls, gets into trouble - solves crimes behind the scenes - maybe he sees a conspiracy at Wayne enterprises?

    But with that said - on its own this Gotham was not half bad. The 'cat girl' was a little annoying - her faux comic book poses mostly - but that's alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saul_on_the_road_to_damascus View Post
    It was one take on the joker's origin. The many different origins he has been given over the years will be used in each episode.
    My idea for the Joker to update him was to have had him be some kind of failed govt MK Ultra experiment gone wrong to explain how he is some sort of expert at explosives or chemicals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprior93 View Post
    Great cast, great look, but the dialogue was cringe-worthy. Normally I'm fine with adaptations deviating from the source material, but Gordon is too naive, almost to the point of being unlikable. Alfred with a Cockney accent? Really?

    My main complaint with this show is Bruce. I'm just not keen on watching a show about a character BEFORE he gets interesting.
    I was watching and at one point they were mentioning him being a soldier and war hero and I told my brother Gordon is giving off a Captain America vibe and would have been a good candidate to play Cap in a movie. Then the next scene Gordon is using a trash can lid as a shield. I wonder if that was intentional almost because it was too on the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flag View Post
    I was watching and at one point they were mentioning him being a soldier and war hero and I told my brother Gordon is giving off a Captain America vibe and would have been a good candidate to play Cap in a movie. Then the next scene Gordon is using a trash can lid as a shield. I wonder if that was intentional almost because it was too on the money.
    It did bring to mind that scene where steve is getting his ass kicked in the ally but I didn't think about him giving off a captain america vibe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flag View Post
    You nailed it! The show should have been about a young Bruce Wayne just becoming a bad ass - but he hides it by pretending he is a bad boy living off his parent's money without supervision. He meets bad girls, good girls, gets into trouble - solves crimes behind the scenes - maybe he sees a conspiracy at Wayne enterprises?

    But with that said - on its own this Gotham was not half bad. The 'cat girl' was a little annoying - her faux comic book poses mostly - but that's alright.
    I just realized the only parts I enjoyed were when we saw the soon to be super villains. I don't know if I would enjoy Gotham if it is just a grittier "Law and Order" police procedural with hints of caped vigilantes in 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deathlok2011 View Post
    Catwoman witnessing the origin of Batman is just stupid.... The little girls name is Pamela not Ivy!!!!!
    1. You think that possibly, maybe somewhere down the road, the little girl of the man who was framed for killing two of the most famous people in Gotham might just change her name when she grows older to distance herself from that?

    2. Even if that's her name in this series, you can should clearly be able to tell that this is a retelling, basically in it's own universe and will have many changes from source material. If you can't distinguish that, I wouldn't throw that word around so cavalierly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saul_on_the_road_to_damascus View Post
    It did bring to mind that scene where steve is getting his ass kicked in the ally but I didn't think about him giving off a captain america vibe.
    They were trying to give Gordon a "Boy Scout" vibe. Also, I don't like making Gordon rich if I can nitpick - son of someone connected. Gordon should be a working class stiff - son of a working class stiff having a blue collar nobility - the Batman movie trilogy's Gordon pulled that off well. I think someone mentioned for a city of millions everyone seems to know someone - even Falcone knew Gordon's dad who was a big muckety muck. And Montoya knows Gordon's wife from a lesbian tryst? OK, whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flag View Post
    My idea for the Joker to update him was to have had him be some kind of failed govt MK Ultra experiment gone wrong to explain how he is some sort of expert at explosives or chemicals.
    I believe Saul is talking about one(of the many) possible back story for The Joker that has come up in comics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flag View Post
    They were trying to give Gordon a "Boy Scout" vibe. Also, I don't like making Gordon rich if I can nitpick - son of someone connected. Gordon should be a working class stiff - son of a working class stiff having a blue collar nobility - the Batman movie trilogy's Gordon pulled that off well. I think someone mentioned for a city of millions everyone seems to know someone - even Falcone knew Gordon's dad who was a big muckety muck.
    Yeah. A crook knowing a DA. Far out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    I believe Saul is talking about one(of the many) possible back story for The Joker that has come up in comics.
    Oh, I knew that I was just stating that for comics the update I would do if I owned the DCU was to make Joker more of a deadly modern killer - something that was an experiment that went wrong. The based on real life govt program to turn people who were already in mental asylums into manchurian candidate killers (MK Ultra) has always fascinated me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numberthirty View Post
    Yeah. A crook knowing a DA. Far out.
    A Godfather who is buds with a DA whose son is now a lowly police detective who happens to be married to a hot artist who lives in a millionaire's apartment and Gordon's hot wife probably did another cop in a lesbian relationship (sounds like she has a cop fetish rather than being bisexual). It is kind of far out. And why didn't Gordon go to law school? That would have been the more real life reality of the son of a DA.
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