Gambit and Rogue Appreciation

[Moonshine]

Please, please, please post your original works. They are really good.

Agreed. All the more to love with this discussion.

So, since her portrayals recently in Legacy, UA, X-Men, and Gambit have been so different from one another, I'll just say that she is probably a very confused woman.

I'm leaning toward two possiblities. I think Marvel will not confirm the first so I'll likely have to live with it being the last.

#1 - Her absorption of the Hecate? millions minds nearly killed her by basically almost wiping her away. That's why when Hope saved her - all the old aborptions had to be wiped out. Doing that really messed with Rogue's head and her understanding of herself. I think she "lost" all sense of self and her feelings to an extent. She had her memories but not any real attachement to them yet. Sort of like what she did to Ms. Marvel. At first she felt nothing but her anger at Mystique from right before she was shot. That explains her lashing out and trying to kill Mystique. The she goes out to "find" herself because of this. So basically she is "reliving" her memories to become attached to them again. (Something that I believe happend to Carol too but she doesn't want to admit because then she would actually have to deal with the fact she really isn't close to her family because of her issues not something done to her). ( I also belive that if there is going to ever be a time she ran into Sentry and had an comfort fling, this was when it happened. ) So Rogue starts at the beginning and goes through her feelings for Mystique, beaking away, her time in Australia, and then her crush on Magneto. The problem is she gets cut off right there because of Danger and never gets any farther. She knows she has feelings for Remy but never gets to remembering them from the point on because she's now been dragged back into the X-Men and dealing with their issues. So she's stuck on her crush with Magneto and not what happened after (which is why she never really confronts him as she's not really addressed those memories and feelings) and AoX just re-enforces that. She knows she moved on and why but emotionally she's back at late teen years and is acting on those feelings. So basically she's now emotionally acting out her late teen emotions. Her crushes, her gratitude to Xavier (becoming a teacher like him), her anger at how isolated she felt and how mutants are treated (which sort of explains her sudden angry focus on Wanda). She's pushing Remy away because she's not progressed far enough emotionally to deal with that attraction honestly. Its too big and too permanent. She made it only so far and she's reliving her youth with freedom she didn't have then. Maybe thats a good thing and she come out of it stronger but so far the growing pains have been pretty extreme. From dating a guy who once tortured her to acting like Wolverine and stabbing first and jumping to conclusions.

#2 is the simplified version of gaining control has given Rogue a chance to explore what she didn't in her youth and she's pushed Remy away because she's just feels the need to test her freedom first to be sure. That just makes Rogue more immature than I once thought she had gotten to and doesn't explain her sudden anger and lashing out now.

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[Dantes617]

#1 - Her absorption of the Hecate? millions minds nearly killed her by basically almost wiping her away. That's why when Hope saved her - all the old aborptions had to be wiped out. Doing that really messed with Rogue's head and her understanding of herself. I think she "lost" all sense of self and her feelings to an extent. She had her memories but not any real attachement to them yet. Sort of like what she did to Ms. Marvel. At first she felt nothing but her anger at Mystique from right before she was shot. That explains her lashing out and trying to kill Mystique. The she goes out to "find" herself because of this. So basically she is "reliving" her memories to become attached to them again. (Something that I believe happend to Carol too but she doesn't want to admit because then she would actually have to deal with the fact she really isn't close to her family because of her issues not something done to her). ( I also belive that if there is going to ever be a time she ran into Sentry and had an comfort fling, this was when it happened. ) So Rogue starts at the beginning and goes through her feelings for Mystique, beaking away, her time in Australia, and then her crush on Magneto. The problem is she gets cut off right there because of Danger and never gets any farther. She knows she has feelings for Remy but never gets to remembering them from the point on because she's now been dragged back into the X-Men and dealing with their issues. So she's stuck on her crush with Magneto and not what happened after (which is why she never really confronts him as she's not really addressed those memories and feelings) and AoX just re-enforces that. She knows she moved on and why but emotionally she's back at late teen years and is acting on those feelings. So basically she's now emotionally acting out her late teen emotions. Her crushes, her gratitude to Xavier (becoming a teacher like him), her anger at how isolated she felt and how mutants are treated (which sort of explains her sudden angry focus on Wanda). She's pushing Remy away because she's not progressed far enough emotionally to deal with that attraction honestly. Its too big and too permanent. She made it only so far and she's reliving her youth with freedom she didn't have then. Maybe thats a good thing and she come out of it stronger but so far the growing pains have been pretty extreme. From dating a guy who once tortured her to acting like Wolverine and stabbing first and jumping to conclusions.

This is a really interesting theory. Although I agree it will probably never be confirmed by Marvel, it may just be my head-cannon from now on.

[Dantes617]

So, this is my version of the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly when it comes to the Romy relationship. If anyone has other examples, please post.

The GOOD:

[Dantes617]

The BAD:

[Dantes617]

The UGLY:

It's not easy to find "ugly" art of these two, but I really hated this.

[Spasticat]

This is a really interesting theory. Although I agree it will probably never be confirmed by Marvel, it may just be my head-cannon from now on.

Wow, Moonshine. Train of thought #1 is definitely the best reasoning I've seen so far. I'm gonna jump on that headcanon boat with Dantes, methinks! I missed out on several years worth of comics, so I haven't read all of the various events and feel like I don't have enough context to understand why Rogue backed off so hard once she learned to control her powers. From the snippets I have read, it seemed to me like she started losing faith when Deathbit tried to kill her. I hope somebody at Marvel reads your reply and thinks, "Oh damn.. we gotta use that!"

Here's some more fanart I found (gotta love Deviantart!)

Reilly Brown (their eyes are the wrong color, but the attitude is there!)


Tukino-kana (Love seeing him make her laugh! Wish that had happened more often!)

[Spasticat]

The UGLY:

It's not easy to find "ugly" art of these two, but I really hated this.

WOOF. Ugh. Such a great arc ruined by horrible art :'( You know what REALLY sucks? That we get to see more of Gambit knocking boots with Mrs. Snow, in a MUCH more intimate setting, than we ever got to see of him and Rogue. That really cheeses me off! Edit: Forgot about the whole mental "couples counseling" thing with Emma... although I don't think that should count because Larocca's art wasn't all that hot and the whole thing was just depressing as heck.

[Spasticat]

I'm gonna end up being the addict to this thread like Jen was to the Rogue thread, LOL.

LOVE THIS!

'Welcome' by starrrtt27
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And of course, the best scene from Evolution (when she slams his hands with the bo-staff at 2:00 and tells him off, I grin every time!)

[Spasticat]

Please, please, please post your original works. They are really good.

Yer tryin' ta get my ass kicked offa the new board, ain'tcha? J/k (although I won't be surprised if I get a "you better remove that!!" PM in a minute...lol)

[Spasticat]

And some PG stuff to balance it out!

These two are freakin' awesome, what a great idea!

[Dantes617]

Oh, no worries. I'm already as addicted as you are. Either addicted or bored.

Here is something from my generation.





And thanks for posting your original works. Amazing, as always, Spasticat.

[Spasticat]

Oh, no worries. I'm already as addicted as you are. Either addicted or bored.
And thanks for posting your original works. Amazing, as always, Spasticat.

They are great inspiration for when one is bored or sad, aren't they??

I found the one that inspired the biting in my story!

[Spasticat]

Forgot to say thank you for the compliment, Dantes!

Holy crap, I AM bored... I think this thread needs some chillin's

Ollie and Becca!

Kidnapped this redesign from SouthernBella on MarvelHeroes.com because his outfit looks like his momma's


Totally a daddy's girl!

[Spasticat]

I was going to repost this on tumblr with a silly blurb along the lines of "Keep your hands to yourself, Gambit"...


...and then I did a double take at the date.

X-Men #1, Vol. 2 came out in October 1991 (I remember buying all the variants and skipping class in middle school to read them with my best friend, lol). Judging by Rogue's hodgepodge costume (and Jean's lack thereof, plus Scott is still in his old duds), I don't think that Jim Lee had ironed out her iconic yellow/green bodysuit yet, but it sure looks like they already had something else in mind that was about to start on the road to 'epic' status (but not until X-Men #4 came out in January 1992)...look at Rogue's and Gambit's faces!! I think this might be the earliest actual canon Romy moment!

Of course, this does kinda look like a collection of clips taken from various panels and thrown together, but I definitely don't remember that mess of a costume! Where's Jen when you need her? :/