Proof Superman Did Not Destroy the City in Man of Steel

[evangelionofasgard]

there has sadly been a lot of exaggeration and misinterpretation of the final fight between superman & zod. people claiming superman destroyed the city and such crap.

so here is a walk thru of the final fight punch by punch, pointing out exactly what damage was done and who was at fault.

before the fight superman crashes the scout ship into the city, SUPERMAN'S FAULT, but he had no idea where it would land and he had to stop it or zod would have shot down the plane with lois and the only way for them to destroy zod's main ship.
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firstly sups & zod tackle each other on open ground. shockwaves go thru the flat landscape.
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next the 2 go flying into the corner of a already very damaged building, it is unclear if superman is slamming zod into it or he is being thrown into it. UNCLEAR RESPONSIBILITY
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next we see superman has been sent flying thru some windows ZOD'S FAULT
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next Zod cuts the building in half with his eye beams, ZOD'S FAULT
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superman barely is able to fly out, the force of him propelling himself out of the building is too much, and he is unable to stop himself from crashing into bottom floor of a parking garage. SUPERMAN PHYSICALLY AT FAULT BUT NOT INTENTIONALLY
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zod kicks a gasoline tanker at superman which he dodges and it explodes taking out the rest of the parking garage ZOD'S FAULT, with superman being... negligent-ish for allowing it to crash into the building.
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he immediate realizes his mistake as he looks back up at it in horror, and zod is intently on him punching him.
they fight in the street tearing up a bit of the concrete and damaging some cars.
zod sends superman flying with a punch to lightly crash towards the top of a sky scraper ZOD'S FAULT
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zod begins leaping up across the building creating damage as he goes ZOD'S FAULT
superman & zod collide midway along the side of the building causing a good size dent BOTH AT FAULT
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superman tackles zod thru some steel bars at the construction site SUPERMAN'S FAULT
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superman lets loose punching zod far across the sky above the city, clearly trying to get him out away from the buildings, they are approaching the outskirts when zod swerves and hides back among the buildings.
where he burst thru a building to surprise tackle superman. ZOD'S FAULT
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zod then throws him into another building ZOD'S FAULT
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superman then tackles him back dragging his face thru the windows and side of the building. SUPERMAN'S FAULT
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zod then spin throws superman thru 5 buildings in a row ZOD'S FAULT
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zod then takes the fight into space and destroys a satellite ZOD'S FAULT
zod sends the 2 of them rocketing back to earth, punching superman in the face as they go.
at the very last second superman turns the tables on zod making him go head first into the ground when they crash into the train station. MOSTLY ZOD'S FAULT, superman took advantage of zod's action.
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THATS IT!!! only 11 to 13 max buildings are damaged in the fight itself, only 1 building actually fully fell, the one zod cut in half.

superman is only responsible for 3 points of damage with intent, the scout ship crashing, the steel bars at the construction site, and the side of the building he dragged zod's face thru, everything else was a accident or more zod's fault than his.

AND he tried to take zod out of the city when he let loose punching his across the sky

AND he was clearly holding back when you compare the power of his punches in the sky to the punches he hit zod with in close quarters in the street.

SUPERMAN DID NOT DESTROY THE CITY, PERIOD, THE FIGHT ON THE WHOLE DID NOT DESTROY THE CITY FOR GODS SAKE!
next time someone makes such a outlandish claim, link this page to them. please. these lies to make the film seem worse than it is must end.

[Rahul]

I don't think anyone blames Superman for the destruction. but rather the direction, the writing and the execution.

The problem was that the destruction was engineered in the script of the movie for the sake of destruction porn and showing whatever constituted as realism. You don't really get the sense that Superman saved the city, even though he did.

A knockdown dragout fight between Kryptonians is going to be destructive, but the whole execution was about as graceful as a sledgehammer on cheese. The aftermath could have fixed this somehow but it didn't.

Somehow, this reaction got translated into the opinion that Superman was being a destructive city wrecking neck snapper.

[tombo]

i said at the time. It's not that the character didn't care, more the general feeling that the film didn't care.

[Eyeswithoutaface]

That wasn't just a scout ship that Superman destroyed when he yelled ' Krypton had its chance!'. Zod was right to be pissed when Clark zorched the last Kryptonian Genesis Pod Ship carrying all those eggs, and smashed it into buildings. In the very next scene Clark extricates himself from the wreckage, catches Lois Lane, and gets to first base with her. This is right on the heels of basically committing genocide. 'They say it's all downhill after the first kiss' she says. 'I'm pretty sure that only counts when you're kissing a human' Clark cleverly replies. He's a psychopath.

[tombo]

That wasn't just a scout ship that Superman destroyed when he yelled ' Krypton had its chance!'. Zod was right to be pissed when Clark zorched the last Kryptonian Genesis Pod Ship carrying all those eggs, and smashed it into buildings. In the very next scene Clark extricates himself from the wreckage, catches Lois Lane, and gets to first base with her. This is right on the heels of basically committing genocide. 'They say it's all downhill after the first kiss' she says. 'I'm pretty sure that only counts when you're kissing a human' Clark cleverly replies. He's a psychopath.

That was pretty much my problem with the movie. there was nothing wrong with the scenes on their own, but they were edited so clumsily together. One second Clark going through some harrowing scene, the next second flirting and joking. It made the whole film feel off. You can debunk people's feelings about the film as much as you like, but you can't force people to like it. And in the end "MOS flopped but only because people are dumb and my mathematical equation shows their complaints are invalid and us little group of fans are the smart ones" is a poor consolation prize for a world waiting for a Superman movie.

[evangelionofasgard]

That wasn't just a scout ship that Superman destroyed when he yelled ' Krypton had its chance!'. Zod was right to be pissed when Clark zorched the last Kryptonian Genesis Pod Ship carrying all those eggs, and smashed it into buildings. In the very next scene Clark extricates himself from the wreckage, catches Lois Lane, and gets to first base with her. This is right on the heels of basically committing genocide. 'They say it's all downhill after the first kiss' she says. 'I'm pretty sure that only counts when you're kissing a human' Clark cleverly replies. He's a psychopath.

The pods on the ship are did not even have fetuses in them yet, it was just the bio mechanical machines that create them.
He did not kill anything.
They kiss because they are both emotionally in shock after almost dying In a black hole and in need of comfort. It's perfectly understandable, both are literally shaking as they embrace.
I will concede the joke was not needed.

[Prime]

It was the Black Zero that destroyed the city. So what?

[Prime]

The thing that hurt it was that there wasn't a good aftermath like in Avengers.

[Eyeswithoutaface]

The pods on the ship are did not even have fetuses in them yet, it was just the bio mechanical machines that create them.
He did not kill anything.
They kiss because they are both emotionally in shock after almost dying In a black hole and in need of comfort. It's perfectly understandable, both are literally shaking as they embrace.
I will concede the joke was not needed.

Right, the pods weren't carrying fetuses, they were carrying embryos. At least we know that all the future children of Krypton who were wiped out by heat vision didn't feel any pain.

[Auguste Dupin]

Right, the pods weren't carrying fetuses, they were carrying embryos. At least we know that all the future children of Krypton who were wiped out by heat vision didn't feel any pain.

Okay, can we not bring this conversation towards the "at which point are foetuses/embryos considered living beings"? Because it would be nice if we did not jump the shark for once.

[Eyeswithoutaface]

Okay, can we not bring this conversation towards the "at which point are foetuses/embryos considered living beings"? Because it would be nice if we did not jump the shark for once.

Huh, I wasn't even thinking about that.. Maybe after Zod yelled, "Don't! If you destroy the ship, you destroy Krypton!' Clark's pause was him not detecting any central nervous systems in the embryos with his x-ray vision. That's why his conscience was clear after zorching the Genesis Chamber, and he had no problem with immediately cracking wise before smooching Lois.

[SmokeMonster]

Don't sweat it.

It does fascinate me how this movie's lasting legacy seems to be of Superman/Zod's fight creating a massive crater in metropolis.

Just as bad as people thinking in TDKR that Bruce hung up the cowl for 8 years because of Rachel,

though not quite as bad as "they were dead the whole time!?" when Lost ended.

[Lax]

#1. Superman wasn't trying to save buildings, he was trying to save people. He succeeded.

#2. Zod wasn't trying to kill everyone in the city, he was trying to kill everyone on the planet. The stakes of that battle were so far beyond a mere city I don't understand the negative reaction of some fans. It's like saving someone's life and they're pissed because the jacket got ruined.

If a city happens to get busted up in the process of all this... okay? Just treat it as if it were a hurricane, call it "Hurricane Zod" if you like.

[manduck37]

I really can't believe people are still talking about this movie. In the ever popular words of Frozen, let it go. People either liked it or they didn't and they are basing that on what they enjoy in a film or Superman as a character. This isn't a math problem, where you can just point out where something is wrong and we'll all come to the same correct conclusion. It's based on taste and purely subjective.

I'm one of the people who enjoyed Man of Steel. It has it's flaws, sure. I can see where people would be upset. I didn't like that the conclusion was Zod's death, especially after hearing that he was supposed to be banished to the Phantom Zone originally but Snyder decided to change it. I thought the tornado scene was pretty cringe-worthy. Though over all I liked the kind of sci-fi feel and Superman had some really Superman moments (like working with humanity first and seeing how they wanted to handle things). Does it bother me when someone criticizes the film based on some kind of inaccuracy or blames the film for doing something it really didn't do? Sure. Though I can understand why some people didn't like it. I've just come to accept that there are certain things the movie industry does and certain movie tropes that will find their way into any superhero movie, no matter how much inspiration is taken from the comics. The Marvel movies aren't faithful to the Marvel comics. They change all kinds of things, including the character's origins. They work in plenty of movie tropes too. In a movie, the bad guy always dies. In a movie, the love interest always shows up in places it doesn't make sense for them to be. Things like that. The comic industry isn't working with the film industry to bring comic stories to life. The film industry is working with the film industry to make movies loosely based on comics. Some of them appeal to us, some don't. Though we'll never be able to convince one side or the other that they are wrong, because they aren't. You like what you like and you decide what entertainment to spend your free time on. Your reactions to that entertainment are all your own.

So everyone relax and take a deep breath. If you like Man of Steel, continue watching it and don't worry about what other people think. If you didn't like Man of Steel, don't watch it and don't worry about what other people think. It's that easy.

[chamber-music]

What revenge seeking?

Are you talking about Clark destroying that sexual assaulting bullies truck? It was no worst than Clark's diner scene at the end of Superman 2 in which he turns up looking for revenge on the guy that beat him up. Clark let's the guy break his hand punching him and damages the innocent diner owners property looking seeking revenge against that guy.

Is the 'thieving' about Clark taking some clothes from a clothes line after his were burned off saving a bunch of people on a oil rig?

The movie had its faults but neither of those seemed part of them to me.