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    Default Top five villains

    who are the top five villains in each of these categories?

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    Political ability

    Tactical ability

    Martial Arts ability

    Magical ability

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    Scientific Abilty? Doctor Doom

    Political Ability? Red Skull

    Tactical Ability? Deathstroke

    Martial Arts Ability? Karate Kid

    Magical Ability? Dormammu
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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    who are the top five villains in each of these categories?
    Scientific ability? Doom

    Political ability? Doom

    Tactical ability? Doom

    Martial Arts ability? Uhh... Taskmaster maybe? (Unless Doom mastered the martial arts off panel...)

    Magical ability? Doom

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    Well the top five villains are:
    Lex Luthor
    Joker
    Penguin
    Riddler
    Deathstroke

    After that a case could be made for
    any X-Man
    any Avenger
    Hulk
    Doctor Doom
    Red Skull
    Green Goblin
    Dr. Octopus

    You see the problem with being the "World Outside Your Window" is that your heroes pose a bigger threat to themselves and others than their enemies do.
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    Scientific ability
    Doc Doom
    Leader
    Kang
    Doctor Octopus
    The Mandarin

    Political ability
    Red Skull
    Norman Osborn

    Tactical ability
    Baron Zemo

    Martial Arts ability
    The Mandarin
    Steel Serpent
    Taskmaster
    Killmonger
    Batroc

    Magical ability
    Baron Mordo
    Doc Doom

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    Scientific: Doom
    Political: between Red Skull & Doom
    Tactical: Zemo
    Martial Arts: Taskmaster
    Magical: Doom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draegwolf View Post
    Scientific: Doom
    Political: between Red Skull & Doom
    Tactical: Zemo
    Martial Arts: Taskmaster
    Magical: Doom
    Doom over Baron Mordo in magic? Taskmaster over The Mandarin and Steel Serpent at martial arts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    Doom over Baron Mordo in magic? Taskmaster over The Mandarin and Steel Serpent at martial arts?
    Well seeing as Doom was #2 in the world in magic even before Mordo died....and Taskmaster, well you understand his mutant power right? With minimal studying he can match anything the others can physically.

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    Yeah, Baron Mordo didn't seem to be all that powerful in the last appearance I recall in PAD's X-Factor.

    Scientific ability
    • Doctor Doom
    • The Leader
    • Otto Octavius


    Political ability
    • Doctor Doom - after all he got Henry Kissinger to come to Latveria for treaty talks
    • Norman Osborne - certainly pulled the wool over the entire administration of the POTUS


    Tactical ability
    • Doctor Doom - has lead the Fantastic Four a couple of times successfully in battle and conquered planets
    • Baron Helmut Zemo - pretty successful in the Siege of Avengers Mansion and leading the Thunderbolts
    • Kang - trail of conquest across numerous timelines


    Martial Arts ability (in no particular order)
    • Lady Deathstrike
    • Mandarin
    • Taskmaster
    • Viper


    Magical ability
    • Doctor Doom
    • Mephisto
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    eh, I'd generally put Mordo over Doom.

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    IIRC, Mordo was always just a test the Ancient One used to help find a worthy successor and Strange passed that test. Mordo is powerful in his own right but remember, he did not get summoned to the Trial of the Vishanti so he was not part of the competition to test for the mantle of the Sorceror Supreme. Doom was.

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    Doom really shouldn't have been number two. In that trial he was cheating so hard. I mean I thought it was clever and it it wasn't against the rules themselves but it was definitely against the spirit the rules. If I'm making any sense. Dormammu should outrank them both.

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    Yeah, I remember that too: Doom programing his armor to mimic movements he didn't understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelC View Post
    Doom over Baron Mordo in magic? Taskmaster over The Mandarin and Steel Serpent at martial arts?
    While Mordo is powerful he never invokes the same level of competence or skill Doom exhibits when he comes into play, even with all his skill and power Mordo has never brought the Marvel universe quite to its knees the way Doom repeatedly. He's gone beyond being simply the Fantastic Four's primary villain and elevated himself into someone universally feared by most of known Marvel universe. Mordo might be more powerful in terms of raw mystical power but Doom has a better understanding of magic and how to use it to the most devastating effect.

    As for the Mandarin, while he might have become some badass martial artist in the recent years the fact is most of what makes him dangerous is his possession of the 10 rings. I haven't kept up with him over the years because I generally don't read any of the comics he's involved in but to my knowledge his reliance on the rings doesn't rate him as being a candidate for either the Martial, Tactical, or Magical categories.

    And while I do like Steel Serpent and did actually consider him for the position he hasn't really shown himself to be anything special outside the Iron Fist series from what I've seen, he's skilled sure but there are quite a few people I would put ahead of him that could probably take him like Lady Deathstrike, Zemo, etc. Taskmaster won out simply because just about anything Steel Serpent can do Taskmaster can copy, outside of chi techniques Taskmaster can do anything he see's Steel Serpent do outside of chi based techniques. And if that wasn't enough for you remember we're talking about a guy that could and did take on the Avengers by himself back in the day and come out on top.

    Quote Originally Posted by PlanetaryDevastation View Post
    Doom really shouldn't have been number two. In that trial he was cheating so hard. I mean I thought it was clever and it wasn't against the rules themselves but it was definitely against the spirit the rules. If I'm making any sense. Dormammu should outrank them both.
    If it’s not against the rules then it isn’t cheating. Besides the trials were to see who was going to be the next sorcerer supreme, essentially it came down to who wanted it more and what were they willing to do in order to get it.

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    Scientific ability-

    Doc. Doom
    Doc. Oct

    Political ability -

    Norman Osborne / Green Goblin
    Kingpin

    Tactical ability -

    Red Skull


    Martial Arts ability -

    Bullseye
    Steel Serpent

    Magical ability -

    Dorammu
    Mephisto

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