Jason Todd: Robin, Arkham Knight, Red Hood Appreciation 2018

[Rise]

We already reached 1000? This is pretty awesome.

Also, if we are going to have a new thread, I definitely agree it should be tilted this "Robin, the Hood, the Knight and the Damned Prince of Gotham".

I'd prefer "Damned Prince of Gotham" since basically every Robin is "Prince of Gotham" because of their relationship to Batman, Joker even called Batman a "king" and the batfamily the "royal family" in RHatO #15 (old run)

I see it differently. Batman as named is Gotham's Dark Knight and protecter, not her king. Nor I see any of the other robins as the princess of the city.

What makes "the Prince of Gotham" title so fitting and brilliant for Jason is because he is the product of her cruelty and harsh environment, but there's a still beauty about the city that make her worth saving. Just like how despite Jason's flaws, aggressiveness and ruthlessness, he still a good guy who has so much more to him. Not to mention that he also has a genuine love for the city and a connection with her that goes beyond Batman which unlike the other robins.

[Rise]

RED HOOD: OUTLAW #32
written by SCOTT LOBDELL
art by STEPHEN SEGOVIA
cover by CULLY HAMNER
variant cover by SHANE DAVIS
“Prince of Gotham” part one! After months on the road, Jason Todd has returned to Gotham City! But where the Red Hood once operated as an underground criminal mastermind, Jason Todd is a businessman. Unfortunately for the Penguin, his first order of business is a hostile takeover of the Iceberg Lounge and Casino! A bold new era for Jason Todd begins, and Batman is going to be so pissed off when he finds out about it.
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While I would have liked for Jason to stay in the road longer, I can't say I'm upest that he give the finger to Batman by returning too soon to Gotham and even went after Penguin again. Batman certainly didn't have any right to exile him from Gotham to begin with.

And the businessman route seems an interesting new direction for Jason. Definitely interested in the arc.

[G-Potion]

Hey Rise you're back!

[RedBird]

Good to see you again Rise

Feels like a Christmas Miracle

[Zaresh]

Welcome back @Rise, and merry er, holidays to all!

Now that gives a funny mental image. A band of Jasons going on quests, saving the world. Don't forget the Priest as well. Also is the boss a Jason? We have crime lord.

Of course. Hood is a crimelord, the leader and the Rogue class. Because Rogues are cool (even if I always play with a Sorcerler).
The Priest is the clasic Cleric .
Knight is a Ranger, funny enough.
The Prince will be the a Battle Sorcerler: we need one and he represents the Jason ith inborn bad luck and insintive weirdness.
Wingman will be the Paladin.

[G-Potion]

Of course. Hood is a crimelord, the leader and the Rogue class. Because Rogues are cool (even if I always play with a Sorcerler).
The Priest is the clasic Cleric .
Knight is a Ranger, funny enough.
The Prince will be the a Battle Sorcerler: we need one and he represents the Jason ith inborn bad luck and insintive weirdness.
Wingman will be the Paladin.

I feel like this is the same case where Hood is the leader but just don't tell the others that.

[Zaresh]

I feel like this is the same case where Hood is the leader but just don't tell the others that.

Absolutely.

[Rise]

Aww thank you guys for this warm welcome and I hope you all have happy holidays!!

And happy new year to you all in advance because I might not be able to say it to you when the new year arrive.

[oasis1313]

If the the thread does get reset, I nominate “Prince of Gotham” get added to the title.

I would agree. As Dick is no longer adopted and Tim has his own parents, the Prince of Gotham role is Jason's by right. It would also belong is Damian when he is of age so they would be the Princes of Gotham.

[RedBird]

I see it differently. Batman as named is Gotham's Dark Knight and protecter, not her king. Nor I see any of the other robins as the princess of the city.

What makes "the Prince of Gotham" title so fitting and brilliant for Jason is because he is the product of her cruelty and harsh environment, but there's a still beauty about the city that make her worth saving. Just like how despite Jason's flaws, aggressiveness and ruthlessness, he still a good guy who has so much more to him. Not to mention that he also has a genuine love for the city and a connection with her that goes beyond Batman which unlike the other robins.

I agree with you, I see it more as a symbol of his upbringing and deep roots in Gotham as a true Gothamite, rather than a lineage based on his association with Batman/Bruce. Born within the very underbelly and ugliest parts of Gotham, he lived and breathed this city that continues to birth a whole manner of horrors and crimes. Especially in his post crisis origin he is clearly made out to be a diamond in the rough, like the city itself, roughened and outwardly harsh but still thriving and existing from the innate light and goodness within, even if those positive aspects seem hidden at times. Even though you could slap on the title for any of the male bat family members especially if your interpretation is based solely on the father-son aspect ie; Bruce = King, Batboys = Princes, Batgirls = Princesses? etc.

Based on his birth, origins and upbringing I don't think the title 'Prince of Gotham' or 'Damned Prince of Gotham' is more fitting for any other bat family member than Jason.

Plus as the 'Prince of Gotham' it makes sense that he is thematically and famously in clear opposition and contrasted to the 'Clown Prince of Crime', Joker


Not sure if Alfred is going by lineage here or referring to Jasons background, either way what a softy.

[G-Potion]

Failed to get this done in time for Christmas arggggh. Anyway, jumping on the multiple Jasons train. Gonna be a set of three but the other two will take a while so here's the first one for you guys. And hey, this is already my 9th drawing for Jason!

[Arctic Cyclist]

We already reached 1000? This is pretty awesome.

Also, if we are going to have a new thread, I definitely agree it should be tilted this "Robin, the Hood, the Knight and the Damned Prince of Gotham".



I see it differently. Batman as named is Gotham's Dark Knight and protecter, not her king. Nor I see any of the other robins as the princess of the city.

What makes "the Prince of Gotham" title so fitting and brilliant for Jason is because he is the product of her cruelty and harsh environment, but there's a still beauty about the city that make her worth saving. Just like how despite Jason's flaws, aggressiveness and ruthlessness, he still a good guy who has so much more to him. Not to mention that he also has a genuine love for the city and a connection with her that goes beyond Batman which unlike the other robins.

Personally, I feel what makes the Prince of Gotham title so fitting is because it's the only literature reference among the dozens of heavy handed ones done in Rebirth that's perfect for the character and storyline.

Add in that the original Death in the Family's Shelia Haywood was implied to be a back alley abortionist, and current Jason's mom was a teenager who'd considered abortion and you get the second arc phrase "An orphan or an abortion."

For those who have no idea what I'm talking about, it's The Cider House Rules. The abandoned and orphaned children in the home are all referred to by their caretakers as the princes and princesses of Maine, the kings and queens of New England. Overall, it's an excellent comparison story for Jason, as the main character keeps coming back to the home he was raised in, resists the morals and beliefs of his adopted father, runs off with a boy and girl his age to create a triad relationship that he's eventually eliminated from, and finally embraces his destiny as the rightful heir and successor of his adopted father's legacy and responsibilities.

The books great, oddly, the movie is better. Overall Lobdell has done the best job with his book list, [U]Of Mice and Men[\U] and [U]Flowers for Algernon[\U] were expertly done as well, and I like that he improved upon the original endings.

[RedBird]

Personally, I feel what makes the Prince of Gotham title so fitting is because it's the only literature reference among the dozens of heavy handed ones done in Rebirth that's perfect for the character and storyline.

Add in that the original Death in the Family's Shelia Haywood was implied to be a back alley abortionist, and current Jason's mom was a teenager who'd considered abortion and you get the second arc phrase "An orphan or an abortion."

For those who have no idea what I'm talking about, it's The Cider House Rules. The abandoned and orphaned children in the home are all referred to by their caretakers as the princes and princesses of Maine, the kings and queens of New England. Overall, it's an excellent comparison story for Jason, as the main character keeps coming back to the home he was raised in, resists the morals and beliefs of his adopted father, runs off with a boy and girl his age to create a triad relationship that he's eventually eliminated from, and finally embraces his destiny as the rightful heir and successor of his adopted father's legacy and responsibilities.

The books great, oddly, the movie is better. Overall Lobdell has done the best job with his book list, Of Mice and Men and Flowers for Algernon were expertly done as well, and I like that he improved upon the original endings.

Wow! It didn't even occur to me that 'Prince of Gotham' could be a reference to another classic novel, but considering Lobdell's rebirth track record so far, it definitely seems possible. Thanks for the info

[RedBird]

Failed to get this done in time for Christmas arggggh. Anyway, jumping on the multiple Jasons train. Gonna be a set of three but the other two will take a while so here's the first one for you guys. And hey, this is already my 9th drawing for Jason!

OOOH nice, always love seeing Father Todd and is it Arkham Jason or Titans Jason?
Or a different Jason altogether?

[Zaresh]

Failed to get this done in time for Christmas arggggh. Anyway, jumping on the multiple Jasons train. Gonna be a set of three but the other two will take a while so here's the first one for you guys. And hey, this is already my 9th drawing for Jason!

Great work, @G-Pots
(I was going to post some cool ASCII, but the board breaks it :/)