Jason Todd: Robin, Arkham Knight, Red Hood Appreciation 2018

[Alycat]

Jason dealt well with Cass both times

The hostilites are open season!

But then he lost to a table so the efffct was ruined.

Don`t Forget Azrael, he`s a wild-card.

Your right. Az is dangerous and would give Jason a good fight. Now that's the fight I want to see.

[Assam]

Jason dealt well with Cass both times

The hostilites are open season!

We've talked about this before, but Cass never actually tried fighting him with the intention to win.

Jason is on Dick's level, and Dick isn't on Cass's.

[yohyoi]

We've talked about this before, but Cass never actually tried fighting him with the intention to win.

Jason is on Dick's level, and Dick isn't on Cass's.

Jason isn't even on Dick's level. No other Robin is on Dick's level.

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

Then why even bother having them show up at all?

If it really is so uneven, the sensible thing is that something will be used even out the odds. Otherwise, what's the point?



This. Pretty sure that bow is enough to outright kill the entire 'Tec team, and we know that's not happening.

Shill the 'Tec team.

[JasonTodd428]

Actually, with a genius Bizarro and the Bow of Ra on their midst, any other outcome different to the Outlaws wiping the floor with them it will be bad writing.

I'd really prefer that neither group was jobbed in order to make the other look better myself. I'm with Aioros on how this will play out and that the Bow of Ra will not be a factor in the fight. Its to overpowered for something of this nature IMHO. It's power should be reserved for really high stakes situations and high level threats (think an invasion by Darkseid) not what could be considered a street level fight.

[Caivu]

Shill the 'Tec team.

I'm like, 99% sure that's not going to happen.

I'd really prefer that neither group was jobbed in order to make the other look better myself.

This. It's no fun if it's vastly lopsided.

[Caivu]

Double post.

[JasonTodd428]

This. It's no fun if it's vastly lopsided.

Exactly. It's entirely no fun if I can see whose going to win without a punch even being thrown. Personally I see the two teams being fairly evenly matched in overall skill and that to me makes this fight more interesting then a fight were one team basically curb stomps the other because they are overpowered.

I seriously hate when writers do that and I would hope that Lobdell can respect the skills and abilities of the members of both teams regardless of who ultimately wins the fight. I've had enough of writers blatantly dumbing down the skills of characters that they are "borrowing" from somewhere else for an arc and crossover just so they can make their own book's characters look awesome.

[Aahz]

If I'm Batman, I expect the 'Tec team to handle almost anything below the Justice League. The Outlaws would be a challenge but Batman trained the 'Tec team. They should know how to handle Superman level threats. The 'Tec team would win through tactics and strategy, the Batman way.

I don't know. Most of DCs other Teams, have also a Batfamily character for the tactics and strategy part (and without Tim Kate seems to be the only one with experience in that area in the Team), and have at least one member that could potentially solo the complete team, if they don't have some kind of prep.

[darkseidpwns]

Bizarro owns the Tec team in under a minute, anything else is bad writing.

[Caivu]

Bizarro owns the Tec team in under a minute, anything else is bad writing.

No. Anything else without a means of weakening, incapacitating, or otherwise removing him as a threat is. Same for Artemis, for that matter.

[darkseidpwns]

No. Anything else without a means of weakening, incapacitating, or otherwise removing him as a threat is. Same for Artemis, for that matter.

I'm not concerned about Artemis but without plot devices and other plot driven non sense the Tec team wouldn't last 30 seconds against Bizarro. He kills them by breathing hard.

[rev516]

I'm not concerned about Artemis but without plot devices and other plot driven non sense the Tec team wouldn't last 30 seconds against Bizarro. He kills them by breathing hard.

Big facts ^

[Caivu]

I'm not concerned about Artemis but without plot devices and other plot driven non sense the Tec team wouldn't last 30 seconds against Bizarro. He kills them by breathing hard.

Not necessarily. Sure, they can use weapons, but Bizarro still has to breathe, yeah? You just said he did. Clayface could conceivably get inside his mouth and nose and cut off his airway. Or any number of other nasty things.

[Godlike13]

Bizarro has ice vision.