By the way, I have an impression that Roy and Starfire would 'somehow' show up around issue #24 based on previous discussion in this thread about some twitter information. Does anyone remember that?
By the way, I have an impression that Roy and Starfire would 'somehow' show up around issue #24 based on previous discussion in this thread about some twitter information. Does anyone remember that?
Oh snap, I forgot it's #24 already. Yeah Lobdell did say so. Do you think that to pull Jason back from the dark side, it will need more than just the current Outlaws? A source from tumblr also said All-Caste might be back as well.
I disagree. Something of this sort really does need the proper buildup for the resolution to have meaning and readers need to see that buildup. It can't just happen off panel like happens in some books. *cough cough 'Tec cough cough* Honestly I don't feel like anyone has taken a backseat to anyone else in this book. Believe me I've seen what that's like and this ain't it.
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Oh my goodness gracious! I've been bamboozled!
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What I like about Lobdell is that he plants the seeds for future storylines very, very early. I vastly prefer this sort of natural progression over the one-and-done approach where things just crop up suddenly to be resolved and then forgotten.
The tricky part of what Lobdell is doing though is if you take too long to realise the plot and when you do it becomes an incoherent mess like Chris Claremont's X-Men run became because you're either a new reader or you have forgotten the plot even exist. So I hope he doesn't fall into that trap.
"Excellent!" I cried. "Elementary," said he
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Oh my goodness gracious! I've been bamboozled!
When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change. AVATAR AANG
Solicitation is always 3 months ahead. After one month of waiting, you got another one saying something like 'Bizarro is getting worse...' + 'the rest of the outlaws...' + 'Can outlaws... this time?' again, and it doesn't seem to be the last one for it.
Well, I would just blame that the solicitation writer is terribly lack of imagination...
I remember Lobdell implied that the previous Outlaws would appear 'in a way' (or something like that). Not sure what he meant. Maybe he kept things vague because he couldn't let the solicitation spoil anything, just like Faye Gunn Jr was totally a surprise.
Well I have no idea what Chris Claremont's X-Men looks like, but so far the aside from the Mysterious Guy and Willis' letter, what Lobdell has spinkled all over the run have the subtlety of either looking like a fun one-and-done thing (stealing Penguin's money, laundering that money through his own casino) or a character moment (Jason's talk with Croc, him reading Become What You Are, etc...). It's not Lobdell introducing plots after plots and taking too long to realize them because they work well as a standalone in that moment, but when something does come out of them, you can appreaciate the long-term thinking, or at least the idea of using what's already there and make it grow.
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Unlike Lobdell's Red Hood and the Outlaws run Claremont's run on the X-Men lasted sixteen years something that would unprecedented then and now. While Claremont defined the X-Men he laid down a lot of plot threads that he took forever to pick up upon resulting in low sales for the X-Men because of it. It was like Claremont expected himself to write the X-Men forever. So yeah I am glad Lobdell isn't taking too long to get on with it though i wodner whether someone could replace Lobdell should he end up suffering from burn out or when his run is over.
"Excellent!" I cried. "Elementary," said he
I like that, too. it's one of the most entertaining tools in a narrative as a reader, go looking for thrown future treads and fitting pieces across an story progress. It even makes me enjoy reading some stories that are not really readable in other circunstances: finding clues, putting then together, anticipating the plot. Fun stuff.
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I got the impression it might happen at the very end of the issue. Something that's revealed the last page. Maybe Jason is close to crossing the line and Artemis finds a way to contact them because she doesn't want to involve the bat family yet. Maybe Jason's so upset he doesn't care about the rules Bruce set up but Artemis doesn't want him to get in trouble.