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    Ah well, the negativity is pouring in. Time to stay away from tumblr again.

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    That he's going down the rabbit hole, is something I think it's clear. And it sure is going to have a lot to do with the previous issues. Even overly hyperbolic (as always), the summary for the solicit makes it clear that he feels isolated, alone, and hurt. He holds a crowbar in the cover, but you can also see using knuckles (an awfully dirty weapon, if you ask me) and his gloved fists in the pictures behind him. So I take it the cover is overdramatic and he doesn't just use a crowbar, but just switch to hand-to-hand combat. And I can picture him being bitter enough to show how such combat style can be as damaging as guns.

    I mean, in N52 Jason wasn't killing people because he enjoyed it. And that was Lobdell's writing. I have a hard time believing he would change his take on Jason's behaviour that much so suddently; but again, a switch to brutal hand-to-hand combat can be worked and explained by him trying to prove something. It's basically what he did in Under the Hood, and that Jason was, too, in a very bad place.

    I'm even expecting Jason to be wrong in his reasoning, and prove wrong in the end. Because that's how you write an interesting character; when he's flawed and you work the story to "improve" him. Well, er... At least, that's a reason I get interested in some stories, hum.

    I'm terrified, but also excited. Again. There has to be a word for that kind of feeling. The same as there has to be a word for feeling awful for your enjoyment, that's also what I'll probably get from this book if it all goes as I think it will. Heh.

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    As for the costume, I'm OK if the artist doesn't put lips on his helmet

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    Quote Originally Posted by magpieM View Post
    As for the costume, I'm OK if the artist doesn't put lips on his helmet
    I think (hope) DC already got it that nobody wants them on the helmet ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Potion View Post
    I'm actually less worried about this considering all this time we've been treated with 23 issues worth of material that makes us sympathize with Jason in the first place. When the revelations with Willis, or whatever makes Jason fly off the handle, are fully realized, I think it's already sufficient for the readers to understand where he comes from when the Bat fight takes place. Even if it turns out he's killing to get revenge, it would still be sympathetic.
    I agree with you. Lobdell has done a lot of build up here so when Jason flies off the handle this time it will have a ton of emotional impact at least. Having said that though I'm still not comfortable with this direction because it was bungled so badly before the N52. Like I said I'm willing to see where this goes but only because of Lobdell's continued involvement and because it was apparently his idea and not some editorial edict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaresh View Post
    I'm even expecting Jason to be wrong in his reasoning, and prove wrong in the end. Because that's how you write an interesting character; when he's flawed and you work the story to "improve" him. Well, er... At least, that's a reason I get interested in some stories, hum.
    I agree with this so much.

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    You guys are jinxing it. There will be a mouth on the Hood now. Also, hope were not losing Dexter Soy for the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kiwiliko View Post
    I'm still a little disappointed that wasn't a fox or wolf head. Would've made the name Red Hood more fun.
    Guys stop, I'm getting increasingly bummed with the inferior choice to these two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alycat View Post
    You guys are jinxing it. There will be a mouth on the Hood now. Also, hope were not losing Dexter Soy for the book.
    There will be a riot I promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alycat View Post
    You guys are jinxing it. There will be a mouth on the Hood now. Also, hope were not losing Dexter Soy for the book.
    Cover is from Woods too, right? On one hand, the mask seems to lack mouth; on the other hand, it seems to be a mask with... dots? at the sides, like certain other Jason's mask, kind of. I hope it's not the case: I don't like the idea of a Friday the 13th-like mask; on a third mutated hand nobody expected, it would make the new design be so 80's and it could be charming and appealing to my most dark instincts, that I would end loving it against all odds, probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonTodd428 View Post
    I agree with you. Lobdell has done a lot of build up here so when Jason flies off the handle this time it will have a ton of emotional impact at least. Having said that though I'm still not comfortable with this direction because it was bungled so badly before the N52. Like I said I'm willing to see where this goes but only because of Lobdell's continued involvement and because it was apparently his idea and not some editorial edict.
    Pre-flashpoint Jason didn't have a book and was used as antagonist for the batfamily. I would like to think that DC isn't dumb enough to go back to that when it was badly received and Didio himself saying that they got angry letters from fans who were upest about it.

    We are still missing issue 24, 25 and the annual which they are crucial for us to understand what lead Jason to the place he is in issue 26. If Lobdell is planning something and the pay off is worth it, then good for us. If not, we got four volumes from this run that are really great.

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    Since the cat's out of the bag, I guess I can tell you guys a bit more.

    No lips on the helmet
    Things might change but at the very least the entire arc will be drawn by Woods
    That is not any crowbar, is the crowbar.

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    Now would be a good time for Lobdell to give another interview. I see excitement and panic everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark_Tzitzimine View Post
    Since the cat's out of the bag, I guess I can tell you guys a bit more.

    No lips on the helmet
    Things might change but at the very least the entire arc will be drawn by Woods
    That is not any crowbar, is the crowbar.
    Wha... wonder where he got it.

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    Also Dark if possible, could you disclose whether this is what Lobdell has planned all along or it's from higher-ups?

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