Jason Todd: Robin, Arkham Knight, Red Hood Appreciation 2018

[RedBird]

There is anyway only one issue left.

I know, that's why I mentioned its getting cancelled so no loss. I didn't bother with this issue (already saw scans of 'those scenes' on tumblr) and I'm not bothering with the finale. And also any 'corrections' it makes is again, unlikely. A shame really, I'd like to see more stuff of old grizzled Jason, though, you know, in a universe where he's not portrayed as being despicable.

[Sergard]

I sense some tendency to make ex-robins evil in alternative futures, e.g. Dick Grayson from the Booster Gold arc in Batman, Tim "Savior" Drake and Damian in general. So Mother Panic Jason is in good company.
Mother Panic wasn't on my radar until the Jason Todd appearance - and even then I hadn't big hopes for him. At the moment I'm rather looking forward to Trinity Vol 3 coming out on Tuesday.

[Aahz]

I sense some tendency to make ex-robins evil in alternative futures, e.g. Dick Grayson from the Booster Gold arc in Batman, Tim "Savior" Drake and Damian in general. So Mother Panic Jason is in good company.

Sure but if you make him evil you can at least make him intimidating, scary and competent.

Mother Panic wasn't on my radar until the Jason Todd appearance

I had also no interest in it before Jason.

[Zaresh]

I sense some tendency to make ex-robins evil in alternative futures, e.g. Dick Grayson from the Booster Gold arc in Batman, Tim "Savior" Drake and Damian in general. So Mother Panic Jason is in good company.
Mother Panic wasn't on my radar until the Jason Todd appearance - and even then I hadn't big hopes for him. At the moment I'm rather looking forward to Trinity Vol 3 coming out on Tuesday.

It happens to every Robin, active or not. Same as Bruce being somewhat evil in certain alternate universes and timelines. So far, only the girls are safe, and I'm not sure about that at all: maybe I just didn't come across an evil version of any of them.

[Zaresh]

D-D-Double post!

[Aioros22]

That still doesn't excuse the poor grasp the writer has on the character, a grasp so poor that Jason could be replaced by a random OC and there wouldn't be any significant change to the plot.

That`s another argument.

Mine is pretty spot on: it`s basically an Elseworlds happening on another reality. Basically card blanche for any writer at how straighforward they can go.

[gwhh]

What comic issue is this from? How Jason Todd get so strong?

https://lowbrowcomics.com/2015/05/03...eets-red-hood/

http://dangermart.blogspot.com/2014/...35-review.html

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

Supergirl #35 from the N52 series. Jason was using Venom.

[JasonTodd428]

That`s another argument.

Mine is pretty spot on: it`s basically an Elseworlds happening on another reality. Basically card blanche for any writer at how straighforward they can go.

Yeah, I give Elseworlds stories a lot more leeway in their treatment of various characters than I do stories that are supposed to be set in the current continuity. The latter should keep a character's characterization consistent across books while the former, by their very nature, aren't, in my opinion, bound by that stricture. MP, for all that they say its supposed to be the future of the current DCU, is for all intents and purposes an Elseworld story. There really is no such thing as a definitive DCU future despite how DC may market something. The fabric of the DCU is just to ever-changing due to editorial changes and such for that to even be possible.

[Sergard]

I reread the ending of Batman Under the Red Hood and somehow was surprised that Jason was crying when giving Batman the "ultimatum" to either kill the Joker or Jason. Totally forgot about that detail and only remembered that the whole final confrontation between Bruce and Jason was so f*cking emotional. (And the Joker had the time of his life) I wonder what Jason was thinking at that moment.

The next RHatO issue has some flashbacks if I remember correctly, right?

Batman UtRH Jason crying.jpg

[Zaresh]

I reread the ending of Batman Under the Red Hood and somehow was surprised that Jason was crying when giving Batman the "ultimatum" to either kill the Joker or Jason. Totally forgot about that detail and only remembered that the whole final confrontation between Bruce and Jason was so f*cking emotional. (And the Joker had the time of his life) I wonder what Jason was thinking at that moment.

The next RHatO issue has some flashbacks if I remember correctly, right?

Batman UtRH Jason crying.jpg

Yep. We were told the new artists came to the book in order to work on those pages, if I recall correctly.

[JasonTodd428]

I reread the ending of Batman Under the Red Hood and somehow was surprised that Jason was crying when giving Batman the "ultimatum" to either kill the Joker or Jason. Totally forgot about that detail and only remembered that the whole final confrontation between Bruce and Jason was so f*cking emotional. (And the Joker had the time of his life) I wonder what Jason was thinking at that moment.

The next RHatO issue has some flashbacks if I remember correctly, right?

Batman UtRH Jason crying.jpg

You know I've often wondered what Jason was thinking in that moment.

[magpieM]

You know I've often wondered what Jason was thinking in that moment.

At that moment he was ready to die in the hand of Batman, a father figure, a mentor, someone he'd been crazily over-obsessed with since he came back to life...

[kaimaciel]

https://www.cbr.com/zack-snyder-dick...ampaign=CBR-TW

Snyder Erases Any Doubt About Identity of Batman v Superman's Dead Robin... It's Dick Grayson.

Jesus Christ, they really shot themselves in the foot.

[kaimaciel]

https://www.cbr.com/zack-snyder-dick...ampaign=CBR-TW

Snyder Erases Any Doubt About Identity of Batman v Superman's Dead Robin... It's Dick Grayson.

Jesus Christ, they really shot themselves in the foot.