So what do you think of Beast?

[MichaelC]

Hero? Villain? Cool character? Lame?

[Gray Lensman]

Hero? Villain? Cool character? Lame?

Formerly cool hero who has been turned into a caricature of the 'It's evil because Cyclops does it!' crowd. To reconnect with the older, much better version, I recommend the 90's series, X-Men: Evolution, and even the X-Men Anime over what is currently in the comics.

[shades of eternity]

Beast was easily my favorite character when I first started reading X-Men. He was a brilliant mixing of brains and brawns.

Foxes X-Men animated only cemented my favoritism of the character with George Buza's voice acting (and his combat backpack needs to be made canon).

however, he has been damaged in later years by bad story telling (genocide and bad use of time travel being the two big ones)

it's sad really because outside of comics, he's usually really protrayed well (Kelsey did a great job in protraying the character in the otherwise bad xm3 movie, and he usually ends up as an anchor character in most animated series).

[Gray Lensman]

Beast was easily my favorite character when I first started reading X-Men. He was a brilliant mixing of brains and brawns.

Foxes X-Men animated only cemented my favoritism of the character with George Buza's voice acting (and his combat backpack needs to be made canon).

however, he has been damaged in later years by bad story telling (genocide and bad use of time travel being the two big ones)

it's sad really because outside of comics, he's usually really protrayed well (kelsey did a great job in protraying the character in the otherwise bad xm3 movie, and he usually ends up as an anchor character in most animated series).

Hank is normally treated quite well by other media, and they tend to go with the Hank I really like. Bonus points for him being one of the few super-genius types without a superiority complex.

[Blackphoenix]

Shouldn't this be folded into the Beast Appreciation Thread?

[ETMike1988]

Shouldn't this be folded into the Beast Appreciation Thread?

No. In this thread, you can call him the greatest traitor of mutants, a freak idiot, a sorry excuse of a living being, etc.. etc... In that other thread, only positive things are allowed to said about him.

[DurararaFTW]

Takes a lot to turn me against a character i used to love as much as Beast but they did it. He still work as a peripheral character in "X-Men" and "Storm" and whatnot but only because they aren't dealing with the meat of the character as he is right now. Bendis is, and the result is not pretty.

[Gordonstar]

He is greater than ever.

[Kisinith]

He used to be my 2nd favorite X-Man, but he's been such a flaming hypocrite that I currently can't stand him.

[Beezzi]

Classic Hank has always been one of my favourite X-Men. Hank as I see him: Brains, brawns and a bit of a tortured soul. Uses wit and intelligence to hide his insecurities about his appearance and his place in the world. Can get grumpy and mopey at times. Might be the tiniest bit vain - uber, smart intellectuals sometimes are. There's a fine line between genius and madness - his ethics stops him from crossing that line, but he will take risks.

Tank? A smart, love sick dofus...mmm...kinda witty? Did I mention he's really clever? He still has maturing to do. No blue fur, means he lacks many of the complexities that make Hank tick. Not half as interesting as the older version.

Look, there's a way to write a fall from grace for a hero. It's been done before with other characters - hell it was done with Hank. It takes more care and the writer first needs to get what makes the character work at a fundamental level.

Current illuminati Hank seems to have come from nowhere. In the main tiles he doesn't seem to feel and speak like Hank anymore...somethings missing...the logic or maybe the heart? This isn't so much a arc for the character to grow from, but a character assassination, with really zero nuance.

I feel pretty much the same way about Bobby...

[Dupe1979]

When they churned out schism they really missed a golden opportunity, there should have been three sides. Sure take the Wolverine vs. Cyclops storyline to the next level, (which was of course ridiculous), but there should have been a neutral third group of calmer heads that felt keeping Xavier's dream alive was more important than the Summers/Logan pissing contest. Beast should have been right at the forefront of this group with Kitty & Kurt, the more bleeding heart liberal x-men, continuing to fight the good fight as the only side of schism not willfully endorsing a team of mutant assassins.

[Knives]

Currently a hypocrite criticized Scott and allied with the Avengers during AVX but then risked timeline bringing the past X-mens and helped the Illuminati to build bombs to destroy worlds in Time Runs Out.

I will not say whether he is right or not since this involves a dilemma but it sure today it must better understand how Scott felt in the past when had to make difficult decisions on behalf of mutant survival.

[Darth Phoenix]

616 Beast lost me since Schism my fav body type for him is pic.

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Teen Beast I like him OK

Age of Apoc Beast dead but I loved him as a baddie

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[Hypestyle]

I think he should be back in the Avengers, but X-Editorial insist he be with the mutant books.

I would want to write a mini-series based on him, if I could.

His intelligence gets taken for granted.

[616MarvelYear is LeapYear]

I'll say!...

Once an Avenger... by Busiek & Pérez

Page above from Avengers #1 Feb 1998 Beast asking Carol if she goes by "Ms. M" or "Binary"

From Avengers #4 May 1998 Beast helping Carol with a new code-name to go by

Written by Kurt Busiek