So what do you think of Beast?

[AcesX1X]

Cyclops bluffed with his revolution, Beast believed the bluff. Cyclops wanted people to be scared of him, he managed to make Beast very scared indeed yet sought a nonviolent means of tslking Cyclops down. As opposed to other X-Men and Avengers who just wanted murder Cyclops in cold blood.

cyclops bluffed sure but that's no excuse for what beast went and did. it never was

[DurararaFTW]

cyclops bluffed sure but that's no excuse for what beast went and did. it never was

Didn't say it was, but should he be hated as a character for it? Someone should represent the part of the X-Men that doesn't want Cyclops to go down as humanity's enemy and will take drastic steps to prevent this. The whole X-Men are a family thing falls flat to me if all the X-Men looked at Cyclops' bluff, believed it but merely went "whelp, he went crazy, that's the job I guess, we'll deal with the fallout when the time comes."

[AcesX1X]

Didn't say it was, but should he be hated as a character for it? Someone should represent the part of the X-Men that doesn't want Cyclops to go down as humanity's enemy and will take drastic steps to prevent this. The whole X-Men are a family thing falls flat to me if all the X-Men looked at Cyclops' bluff, believed it but merely went "whelp, he went crazy, that's the job I guess, we'll deal with the fallout when the time comes."

yes. bendis was specifically clear about it when the watcher showed up (of all people!) to sit at hank's bed and call him disgusting.

marvel couldn't have been any more explicit on the topic than that. beast's further dressing-down by his own "side" of the x-men should have cemented things for anyone still having doubts.

[CuteClops]

Didn't say it was, but should he be hated as a character for it? Someone should represent the part of the X-Men that doesn't want Cyclops to go down as humanity's enemy and will take drastic steps to prevent this. The whole X-Men are a family thing falls flat to me if all the X-Men looked at Cyclops' bluff, believed it but merely went "whelp, he went crazy, that's the job I guess, we'll deal with the fallout when the time comes."

The X-Men weren't concerned with Cyclops since AvX. They just hated him. They wanted him in the ground, imprisoned or dead. Bobby wanted him dead. Logan wanted to kill him and Hank brought the O5 because he wanted to punish him, and because he didn't have the heart to kill him.

[DurararaFTW]

The X-Men weren't concerned with Cyclops since AvX. They just hated him. They wanted him in the ground, imprisoned or dead. Bobby wanted him dead. Logan wanted to kill him and Hank brought the O5 because he wanted to punish him, and because he didn't have the heart to kill him.

Beast was the guy that wouldn't instigate fights with Cyclops in AvX, when Hope was just hanging out in Utopia with the Phoenix Five and Captain America called for a mission to kidnap her, Beast told them off and refused to be a part of it. As opposed to Wolverine/Rogers/Stark for whom the question was as simple as "Well, at this point either world burns in phoenix fire or I gotta admit to being wrong in an argument with Summers. Sorry world." If Beast only did the 05 thing because he didn't have to heart kill scott, he could've just let Wolverine kill Tyke when he offered to do so. He told Logan no, that's not what they were brought back for. And that's why Tyke is still breathing.

[AcesX1X]

Beast was the guy that wouldn't instigate fights with Cyclops in AvX, when Hope was just hanging out in Utopia with the Phoenix Five and Captain America called for a mission to kidnap her, Beast told them off and refused to be a part of it.

that's not true. he had a change of heart in the middle of avx, but before it even began, beast went behind everyone's back to sow discord and mistrust.

he's the one who wrote that nasty letter to hope telling her to get away from the x-men asap

[Chaos Reigns]

He's great in avengers, let him stay there.

[CRaymond]

Real talk tho: He's the only X-Man who ACTUALLY graduated from Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters. He moved on, got several biochemistry degrees, and joined the preeminent superhero team of the Marvel Universe. He's the best example of Xavier's promise. Jean's life is a revolving door, Angel is a mess, Iceman wanders, Cyclops went villain... the recent demonization of his character aside, he's a success story. He even succeeded Xavier in the illluminati.

While there are those that feel he's better off with the Avengers, he's incredibly important as an X-Man, as a symbol of generational succession.

[CuteClops]

He's a hypocrite and a planetary genocidal.
Therefore, he's better as an Avenger.

[Havok83]

Real talk tho: He's the only X-Man who ACTUALLY graduated from Xavier's School for Gifted Youngsters. He moved on, got several biochemistry degrees, and joined the preeminent superhero team of the Marvel Universe. He's the best example of Xavier's promise. Jean's life is a revolving door, Angel is a mess, Iceman wanders, Cyclops went villain... the recent demonization of his character aside, he's a success story. He even succeeded Xavier in the illluminati.

While there are those that feel he's better off with the Avengers, he's incredibly important as an X-Man, as a symbol of generational succession.

All those characters graduated from the school. Bobby himself has a college degree and has had an accounting career and teams outside the X-men. Why you acting like Beast is unique? Several characters after him have also been successful in similar ways

[Kusanagi]

Great character that was shat on by terrible x-writers, and the x- office is currently happy with this status quo, so yeah stick with the Avengers Hank. You'll actually be likable there.

[wano]

Beast was the guy that wouldn't instigate fights with Cyclops in AvX, when Hope was just hanging out in Utopia with the Phoenix Five and Captain America called for a mission to kidnap her, Beast told them off and refused to be a part of it. As opposed to Wolverine/Rogers/Stark for whom the question was as simple as "Well, at this point either world burns in phoenix fire or I gotta admit to being wrong in an argument with Summers. Sorry world." If Beast only did the 05 thing because he didn't have to heart kill scott, he could've just let Wolverine kill Tyke when he offered to do so. He told Logan no, that's not what they were brought back for. And that's why Tyke is still breathing.

Beast did the O5 out of spite because he wanted to punish cyclops and teen cyclops, not because he wanted to say anything

[DurararaFTW]

that's not true. he had a change of heart in the middle of avx, but before it even began, beast went behind everyone's back to sow discord and mistrust.

he's the one who wrote that nasty letter to hope telling her to get away from the x-men asap

A lot of people told Hope all kinds of things in private conversations.

Beast did the O5 out of spite because he wanted to punish cyclops and teen cyclops, not because he wanted to say anything

HOW would this have served to punish teen cyclops at all? He gonna be sent back promptly, at which point Xavier would have wiped their memories. Everyone involved in the story agrees on that point, it's not by Beast's hand that they stuck around.

[JudicatorPrime]

Loved him decades ago as an Avenger, especially his adventures with his buddy, Wonder Man. Not so sure about now.

[AcesX1X]

A lot of people told Hope all kinds of things in private conversations..

how many of them told her to run away from the x-men? i'll wait.