"We all know the truth: more connects us than separates us. But in times of crisis the wise build bridges, while the foolish build barriers. We must find a way to look after one another, as if we were one single tribe."
~ Black Panther.
Wally had years of development outside of being Flash though in the Titans series. Not like you have to kill off a character to develop a new one. He was already a well defined character before taking on the Flash mantel.
Honestly, turning Wally black and into a 12 year old was dumb. It essentially destroys both characters. The old Wally people actually want to read about and this new Wally that is just Wally in name. You suffocate both characters by trying to merge them together. It doesn't work. You are basically setting up this new Wally for immediate failure because you are already painting him against a version that has had 50+ years of history.
People aren't going to drop the Flash book because Wally is there or not there. They are reading it for Flash in the end and if they had brought in a new character or this awful New 52 version of Wally the sales would be exactly the same. I mean they changed his race to fit with a TV show version that isn't even on TV yet, but all those millions of TV viewers aren't going to suddenly jump on the ongoing Flash comics and start reading them. That just doesn't happen. It's a different type of audience which is why I am fine with completely redefining characters, like race or gender, in movies and TV, I'd love for there to be a movie with a black Superman or a Batman one day, because they are a different medium and not this long form story telling. You are reaching different people.
The Batman line is the most successful comic line currently and it is so far removed from any other interpretations of the franchise in other media that it proves you don't need this synergy between comics and other media to be successful. It's comics so there is enough room for both characters. Just like how Marvel wanted a black Spider-man, a Muslim Ms Marvel, a female Thor or how the Young Justice show created a black Aqualad. You can create new characters while still paying respect to the old version. This New 52 Wally could have been a brand new character and would have much more freedom to grow instead of readers constantly complaining how he isn't the real Wally. I just feel like what they have done was set up this character for failure when they actually could have done something with him.
I'm not a fan of making Wally black.
However, I think many Wally fans want the end product of his journey from fan to sidekick to peer hero; what I consider Wally to be is that entire journey, not just the end point. With setting the clock back for ALL the heroes, not just Wally, that end product is not possible. And it pretty much sabotages the character to have that final product without the growth along the way.
Of course a 12 year old Wally is a regression; the entire new 52 is a regression, and it would have been even if you changed not one iota of the Wally West backstory in the new 52. No matter what, you're going to get the story of Wally West's growth (and, like before, it's going to include a few wrong turns).
Maybe this Wally will pull a "Beast Boy" and change back to the color people are used to without any explanation.
DC should just reveal that this kid's full name isn't Wally West. Give him a name in front of Wally or say Wally was just a pseudonym, and introduce another kid as the real Wally West that resembles a pre 52 Wally. I mean if they can retcon Bart Allen, they can fix this too.
Sure, wonder woman is lois laneWhat's the point of having a brand new story telling universe if every darn character has to be the same as he was before??
Batman is cassandra cain
superman is captain Atom.
it's because they already have fans and people like them
maybe they just doesn't want to crete new characters that they won't won money on it. Much better do creator owned work and cash into it
Last edited by Blacksun; 04-04-2015 at 05:45 PM.
Lol. All of a sudden a lot of "black" people on these forums completely upset about this.
If you use terms like "PC" and "SJW" when it comes to women, BOOM ban-hammer. When it comes to minorities, nothing. Way to go Jonah and Co.
People really show their true colors when anonymity is guaranteed.
That's not how the market works.
Just because you have something awesome doesn't mean it will sell well. You have to market it well, and that can be hard at times, especially with the comic book audience.
Not impossible, but hard.
Of course, maintaining good sales over large periods of time - consistency is another matter entirely. Superheroes are here to stay, unlike the characters of indie books (I mention Indie because they do sell well, relatively speaking, even though the books/characters are brand new).
DC Extended Universe Thread (DCEU)
That's how it starts. The fever. The rage. The feeling of powerlessness. That turns good men....Cruel - Alfred.
This may be the only thing that I do that matters - Bruce.
Stay down, if I wanted it, you would be dead already - Clark.
I am fine with changing race (In fact, I think both DC and Marvel should do more of it - their characters are mostly Caucasian), so long as they develop the character (to be more representative of the real world) - would love to see more superheroes from other countries/regions of the world, instead of just US.
(To the most part, the characters remain the same. But, their culture/identity can make tiny differences in their personality).
What I didn't like about the new 52 version is going with the usual stereotypes associated with African Americans. Don't need all that..give the book to a good writer, let them develop this new version.
DC Extended Universe Thread (DCEU)
That's how it starts. The fever. The rage. The feeling of powerlessness. That turns good men....Cruel - Alfred.
This may be the only thing that I do that matters - Bruce.
Stay down, if I wanted it, you would be dead already - Clark.
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