I always enjoyed reading Kurt Schaffenbergers' Lois Lane more than Wonder Woman. Although, WW had her moments. Lois & Clark. Just biding my time.
I always enjoyed reading Kurt Schaffenbergers' Lois Lane more than Wonder Woman. Although, WW had her moments. Lois & Clark. Just biding my time.
Nothing wrong with the Clois romance, I'm just giving my opinion that I feel that it's secondary to many other things
No, I'm not making it about SM/WW, I know they can make money of them whether they are a couple or not. What I am saying is that a companies are always looking to make more money.
Interesting Fact: Cyclops runs the X-Office.
They shouldn't even be a couple at all. Flies in the face of basic characterization for both Superman and Wonder Woman.
"Either write something worth reading or do something worth writing."-
Benjamin Franklin
well i was talking about the character himself who had become a whiny sanctimonious lack of character development not his marriage. Still then again the marriage didn't really help any way.
What happens if/when that happens, is what happens in comics all the time they do something to shock/awe or piss of the readers.
For what it's worth, when Superman sales were at their worst pre-Flashpoint, Superman and Lois had been forcibly separated from each other for two years. With World of New Krypton and Grounded back to back, the Superman titles were decidedly without the marriage. The marriage had nothing to do with those two lackluster years that allegedly rationalized the reboot on DC's part.
It won't. Clark and Lois will be back together eventually. I would like to see progress. Like them having a baby. Clark and Lois I mean.
I highly disagree with this statement, at least the Superman half.
There wasn't a true uniformity to Superman's characterization at the start of New 52 (just compare what happened in Morrison's book vs. Perez's), but there was a concerted effort to bring Superman back to his Golden Age roots, and if you asked me, that's a very good thing.
Wonder Woman is a different story altogether, but then again, I'll use a Bruce Timm quote to show why whatever changes Azzarello introduced shouldn't be looked upon as necessarily bad:
If there's an idea of "Superman-ness" that defines the "basic characterization" of the character, the idea of "Wonder Woman-ness" is far more nebulous. When I first watched the Justice League cartoon, I was pretty annoyed about their take on the character, but then I read this quote and I got a greater appreciation for the difficulty the writers had in tackling the character. I was one of those guys who'd yell, "Just use the Perez version!" but in retrospect it wasn't the easy solution I believed it to be.Originally Posted by Bruce Timm
I actually meant that the characters are completely different when you compare before and after Flashpoint. Like far more different before and after Crisis.
As for the Timm quote... meh, hard to say. Superman was always changing, the golden age version and the bronze age are practically different characters. Pre-crisis, characterization was constantly changing as continuity wasn't a big deal to DC until the eighties.
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See, I don't get this argument. He knew about the Perez version so he must have known that was the most critically acclaimed version at the time. Yes there are different takes on the character but the same can be said of any character. It's not like he was confused between picking Adam West Batman and Denny O'Neil Batman.
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"They can be a great people Kal-El, they wish to be. They only lack the light to show the way. For this reason above all, their capacity for good, I have sent them you. My only son." - Jor-El
My point is: Many people like lois and clark together, if you do the merchandising people will buy it. Many of my friends do their own t-shirts because of the lack of official merchandising. Or even buy from alternative sites that aren't official.
superman and WW can sell merchan separate and with their respective love interests. that is even better to DC, that needs to sell WW on her own. she is a feminist icon, put superman name along her is disrespectiful
Ah, I understand. Thanks.
I think the cartoon crew made a bad decision of not sticking to a prominent WW run (in this case, Perez) for their inspiration of the character, but on the other hand, I know that several of the creative minds involved in formulating the stories on the show were longtime comic readers, and if they couldn't pinpoint one era that's uniquely WW, then I think there's some merit to the assertion that there's not one era that universally defines the character. I don't look at the show's staff as a bunch of hacks who were handed a character and did no research whatsoever, and then did whatever they felt like. It does, however, make me wonder if it's only serious WW collectors who have the ability to pinpoint a representation of the character the embodies all the well-known aspects of the character.
TL;DR bad decision, but not an unjustifiable one.