I wish this binary choice you envision between mutant and X-Man and a character free to be in Avenger titles applied to Rogue.Well if yo think AvX and Axis was bad, Wanda and Quicksilver were most of the time villains when they meet the x-men. And a couple of good runs doesn't mean they have a much better connection with the avengers.
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What people don't get is that the X-Men are in competition with the characters Disney owns outright. The X-Men movies compete against the MCU movies for ticket dollars. Any merchandise Marvel makes of the X-Men would compete against the Spider-Man, Avengers, Guardians merchandise which they use to hype their movies in turn. If the merchandising helps the X-Men movies gain in popularity that doesn't help Disney/Marvel.
Also Fox does not own the rights to Star Wars. Disney does. What Fox owns are distribution rights to the original series, which just means if Disney releases the original series Fox distributes it and takes a small cut of the profit.
It is not a zero sum game. The movies only compete against each other if they are in theaters at the same time
so sad but it happens in all spheres of culture, neoliberal politics at its worst. At this point, I dont get why fox would fight they have so much other stuff to worry about and just let it go. It sucks everything is reducible to money.
And if the writer of the Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch book wants to use mutants that are utterly unmarketable and impossible to make money off of because people can only see them in movies Marvel didn't make, that's no problemo. So don't tell me Quicksilver gained some greater ability to appear in Avenger titles by not being a mutant. What they did wasn't because it would somehow turn Age of Ultron in a greater success, or because they couldn't make Quicksilver animated features or anything otherwise. They didn't gain money by this. It was brandsynergy for the sake of brandsynergy alone. Or because Remender just doesn't like Magneto or felt like telling this story or whatever.
I have always pointed out that marvel is using the x-men as they've always done in the comics. They'll still be part of the marvel universe and will be used whenever a writer wants them. Merch is different
It is simpler having similar origins in all their products. Age of Ultron might be a greater success but someone coming from the movie would find it simpler to adjust to the comic version. And let's not forget again that the Magneto relation thing was retcon itself. Don't cherry pick
Majority of the xmen films are better than marvel films. marvel films barely have any story in it. marvel films represents the death of comic films in my book. in the early 2000 xmen 1 came out and change the scale of what comic films should be making it about story and many themes. chris nolan himself said he was inspired by the xmen films to make his own batman films and marvel disney came along and made comic films into one liners, clowns and fools and jokes that barely has a plot but they put lots of explosion in it to make money.
most marvel films are embarrassing to watch, it is a joke to compare a film like DOFP or X2 to avengers or guardians of the galaxy. those films are beyond generic
so i think marvel has not come close to make a good quality comic film like X2 or DOFP. marvel does not care about story. it id why they have had falling out with their actors and directors.
Mickey Roucke even said so after Iron man 2, he wanted his character to be more serious and marvel told him to play dumb, ed norton wanted a character driven arc for hulk and marvel sacked him. John Favreau wanted tony's drinking to be taken seriously but marvel said no.this are your marvel films. very dumb and childish
I also think this is why marvel wants to destroy xmen so badly because the more people wacth xmen films they more they realize how incredibly stupid and childish marvel films are.
In 2014 DOFP was an embarrassment to marvel studio in a good way because the film exposed how incredibly stupid marvel films are.
a retcon that made sense and that was dine to help the characters grow because long before it was revealed they where his kids it was always foreshadowed.
the recent retcon is not for artistic purpose it is because marvel hates xmen and that is nearly a retcon at all. no marvel fan is taking it seriously. not to mention the MAJOR PLOTHOLES of the twins as inhumans.
Fuck you Disney, I shall never buy any comics by Marvel ever if they ever wipe out the X-universe.
If it wasn't X men in the 90s and 00s , if it wasn't the X men movie and the X men games in the console, Marvel wouldn't be alive let alone becoming a major power house