Business Insider: DISNEY buries the X-MEN.

[AcesX1X]

Fox does not need Marvel to keep creating new stories. Plus there is so many stories they haven't used yet. Hell, they could do the Messiah Trilogy if they wanted to.

what would be great is if someone could get fox to comment on their side to all this. what is their understanding of what they can incorporate and what not.

as it is, we have marvel just telling people to ignore the wizard behind the curtain. and woe be to those who dare to look anyway.

[Saturius]

This article was pointless. I thought there were going to be some anonymous sources or insider information leaks or quotes that actually said Disney was actively trying to bury the X-Men. There's no such thing at ALL in this article. Basically a summary of everything we already knew to anybody who's paid attention to the X-Men's status over the years. This whole story didn't seem necessary. Disney is focusing more on the properties they can reap the most profit from since they own them, rather than the ones they don't. That's it, and it's something we've all known for years. There was nothing new here.

[Beezzi]

While i completely disagree with the article and the poll I had to add this.
The most sad moment of my life was realizing, watching "Misery" in which Kathy Bates do a funny thing to James Caan feet, that some properties are not as loved by their very creators and owners as much as it is by their fandom. When one can emphatize with Psycho Nurse Kathy Bates is time to make some steps behind, count till 20 and ponder....

Interesting point...

Misery was kinda inspired by real life (minus crazy aunt Kathy)...Arthur Conan Doyle slowly fell out of love with Sherlock Holmes and tried to kill him off, but fans of the detective went into crazy mourning over a fictional character and Doyle was forced to bring him back a la Summers' family.

Fandom in many ways works independently from the creators - Marvel's actually better at acknowledging this than most (allowing fans a certain amount of freedom), but they've made it clear that the fans don't get to dictate direction. The WWE has similar problems right now.

This article was pointless. I thought there were going to be some anonymous sources or insider information leaks or quotes that actually said Disney was actively trying to bury the X-Men. There's no such thing at ALL in this article. Basically a summary of everything we already knew to anybody who's paid attention to the X-Men's status over the years. This whole story didn't seem necessary. Disney is focusing more on the properties they can reap the most profit from since they own them, rather than the ones they don't. That's it, and it's something we've all known for years. There was nothing new here.

It's a piece for the mainstream non-comic reading business man...not really written with us in mind.

Big things might come if other mainstream sites pick up on this and then we might get some new info and comments from Marvel and Fox.

[Gordonstar]

Interesting point...

Misery was kinda inspired by real life (minus crazy aunt Kathy)...Arthur Conan Doyle slowly fell out of love with Sherlock Holmes and tried to kill him off, but fans of the detective went into crazy mourning over a fictional character and Doyle was forced to bring him back a la Summers' family.

Fandom in many ways works independently from the creators - Marvel's actually better at acknowledging this than most (and allowing fans a certain amount of freedom), but they've made it clear that the fans don't get to dictate direction. The WWE has similar problems right now.

Vince is right though.

Gtg

[OpticDreams]

Last years and this years WM were changed because of the fans from my understanding.

[Rosebunse]

Even if they're focusing away from the X-Men, there are quite a few X-Men titles involved in Secret Wars.

[WeaponX]

It will only hurt X-fans and Marvel in the long run. They are not going to get the movie rights back so they might as well utilize the X-men to their fullest.

This is so true. Marvel could stop publishing X-men all together and it give Fox a second thought.

[Gordonstar]

Last years and this years WM were changed because of the fans from my understanding.

Comic book fans are not as vocal as wrestling fans. Still daniel Bryan is totally someone who would had jobbed to hulk hogan or Steve Austin in the 20th century.

And that's why vince hates dbry.

[WeaponX]

It cracks me up that to some as long as there is an X-book there is nothing to this talk. As if you can't bury a comic series as long as the characters appear somewhere. The point being made is not they aren't any X-books or that they are getting canceled it's that they are getting dead last priority to even less popular comic titles.

[Kisinith]

The article is kind of a waste, it doesn't present any new information and simply restates comments made in the Complex thread (probably taken directly from the Complex thread). Also, as has been stated by others, it presents information as fact that has been thoroughly debunked (the ban on new characters).

The theory was all but confirmed last summer, with reports that Disney forbade the creation of new X-Men characters and with senior vice president of publishing Tom Brevoort telling a fan: "If you had two things, and on one you earned 100% of the revenues from the efforts that you put into making it, and the other you earned a much smaller percentage for the same amount of time and effort, you'd be more likely to concentrate more heavily on the first, wouldn't you?"

Talk about misleading, the first statement was proven false (repeatedly) and the second has nothing to do with burying the X-Men its an honest business statement (we may not like it but he's being honest) Both are used together to as proof for something neither actually states.

They actually killed Wolverine.

Umm hello comic book, anyone with even a nodding familiarity of the genre knows that comic death is meaningless. Plus how many Wolverines are we looking at in Secret Wars including a major Wolverine story Old Man logan. And there are the spun off the Logan Legacy and Wolverines titles. Talk about much ado about nothing.

For instance, go to marvel.com and you'll find very few prominent articles about the X-Men.

Except for the giant splash Ad for Black Vortex, but that probably doesn't matter.

Marvel's subscriptions page currently features more than 50 titles, and only four of them star characters from the X-Men.

His information on the link to Marvels Subscription page, is hilariously wrong (I counted 12 discrete X-Men titles) and ignores anything not labeled X like Uncanny Avengers (wish I could ignore it) and the very prominently displayed Inferno title from Secret Wars. Unless he's expecting everything to be displayed and is unfamiliar with website paging and that the X-Men have a whole section devoted to them (web 101).

He complains that they are not prominently displaying the Fox Movies on their website. Why? They own the comic properties but the films technically are a competitors product. Thats like complaining that Ford isn't prominently displaying Toyota's on their website.

And that's been the status quo ever since, with universe-wide crossovers starring the Avengers sharing top billing with Spider-Man, while the X-Men languish on the bottom shelf.

Ummm... AvX, it was badly done yet they pretty clearly shared top billing. Plus nobody inside it looked worse than the Avengers (probably accidentally but still) Also Uncanny Avengers, they shared top billing but were ruined by the writer (who ironically enough thought he was being edgy and cool)

Once again, there is ample evidence that Marvel has been and will continue to promote other titles in preference to the X-Men. There remains zero evidence that Marvel is trying to kill the X-Men. The only thing that article rally says is that the author reads the CBR forums and the Complex thread. It can also be inferred that the author either knows very little about comics by the obvious missteps and reaching or is trying to manipulate click bait by presenting a disingenuous article.

[Tazpocalapse]

Someone should send them the recent links from the Complex, that have quotes from the producer of XM Studios being told to limit X-men products.

[Beezzi]

Last years and this years WM were changed because of the fans from my understanding.

It's weird...If the smarts had their way Dbry would be WWE champion right now, but the WWE is throwing fans a bone by giving him a title...

After the Royal Rumble fallout (their stock fell with fans threatening to cancel their network subs) they kinda had to - it did cut down on the WM booing...kinda...

X-Men fans don't have a direct line to Marvel's Disney lined pockets like wrestling fans do. The WWE needs Dbry fans...Marvel doesn't really X-fans to survive anymore.

The article is kind of a waste, it doesn't present any new information and simply restates comments made in the Complex thread (probably taken directly from the Complex thread).

Wasn't written for comic fans...It was written for business man that don't read comics or visit this thread...it's a basic opinion piece written using links as sources.

[Kisinith]

Wasn't written for comic fans...It was written for business man that don't read comics or visit this thread...it's a basic opinion piece written using links as sources.

I get that the problem is the information is misleading to flat out wrong.

[Tazpocalapse]

It cracks me up that to some as long as there is an X-book there is nothing to this talk. As if you can't bury a comic series as long as the characters appear somewhere. The point being made is not they aren't any X-books or that they are getting canceled it's that they are getting dead last priority to even less popular comic titles.

Exactly, and the funny thing is that people point to the books. Yet ignore Marvel has told producers to limit X-men products. Marvel has routinely gave misleading information, such as the recent statement that "Fox controls the X-men" concerning cartoons.
Considering that Fox does not get a cut out of any Marvel merchandise produced that has no similarities to the movies, why would they limit such X products claiming a lack of consumers?

[AcesX1X]

The article is kind of a waste, it doesn't present any new information and simply restates comments made in the Complex thread (probably taken directly from the Complex thread).

as have been mentioned already, this publication was written for people who are NOT familiar with this topic.

and for businessmen probably not even familiar with comic books at all.