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    If Eve is going to keep stringing Mark along and dump him when times get tough then Mark is better off being with someone that will be with him through the best and worst of times. If she really wants to make it work then she shouldn't be all wishy washy. Also maybe Mark, in turn, should try to balance out his superhero and love life a little more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    If Eve is going to keep stringing Mark along and dump him when times get tough then Mark is better off being with someone that will be with him through the best and worst of times. If she really wants to make it work then she shouldn't be all wishy washy.
    How was she wishy washy or stringing him along? At what point did she ever show anything less than complete devotion to that man? Her feelings for him remained even while he dated someone else. They finally get together and are happy and she devises a plan to make them money so they can live together.

    She let him know that she would be OK with him being a superhero (and never gave him a hard time about it until the end and I'll get to the reason for that). When Conquest attacked and she thought Mark was in danger she literally got out of her hospital bed without the use of her legs and flew to help him and almost died.

    She got pregnant and had to see Mark go away to space war. He was gone for so long that she thought he was dead and had to get an abortion because she couldn't handle being a single mom that young. But when Mark came back she was still with him.

    When Mark looked nuts for working with Dinosaurus she stuck with him even though she thought it was a bad idea. When he lost his powers she supported him and was there for him. When she heard there was an attack on the Viltrumite ship while Mark was powerless she flew up to the moon and confronted Thragg even though she knew he was more powerful then Conquest who had easily almost killed her.

    She gets pregnant again and then sees Dinosaurus "kill" Mark. But he's OK and they get engaged. Angstrom Levy attacks her and she is powerless to help because she can't hurt her baby. But she is with Mark through all of this.

    So where is she wishy washy? Where isn't she there for Mark? Times are really tough for her all the time and she doesn't ever dump Mark. She was with him through the worst of times. She's been a friend and an emotional rock for Mark the entire series. During his marriage proposal he talks about how she is the one that has always been there for him.

    So what changed and finally make her change her mind? Easy - having to consider the life of her baby. That can make you realize how crazy their life is. Things you'll deal with for yourself are things you don't want for your baby. Look at it from her side of things: She's had to deal with thinking the love of her life was dead three different times. Think how horrifying that would be to lose someone like that.

    He came back but she still had to go through those emotions. She's twice been faced with the prospect of being a single mother. And she didn't ask Mark to give up being a superhero. But she did expect him not take what seem like unnecessary risks when he now has a family to consider. She felt that Angstrom was no longer a threat and that chasing him was too risky. And she turned out to be right. But she felt Mark wasn't thinking enough about their family and was too focused on revenge.

    Then she has to deal with thinking he is dead again and went through that grief so much that she quit eating, had to be hospitalized for months, and almost lost the baby. Is it a surprise after everything and all of this that she thinks that Mark's lifestyle might not be the best thing for her and the baby? Is that being wishy washy?

    Yes, the breakup scene was poorly written and she came off as cold in that scene. She should have at least shown relief that Mark was alive. But three pages in one issue of her reaching that decision should not outweigh 100+ issues and countless scenes of her showing her love, support, and devotion to Mark. She was an absolute rock for Mark the whole series and was never wishy washy. It seems like she just reached the end of what she could deal with which I attribute mostly to her now having to think about the baby.
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    Another gory, albeit exciting ride for our favourite hero. The creative team shoes how superheroes could work. No stops, everything goes, a cliffhanger all other titles should aim for. I have never gone through a title for 111 issues and never felt let down. In my opinion Invincible is Kirkman's true masterpiece. And of course there is Ottley and Rathburn. 100 issues and killing it on each installment.
    People, read Invincible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    If anyone is expecting a family friendly comic then they really haven't followed the comic at all. Nor Kirkman's works for that matter.
    How is his dinosaur comic? Is that gory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jade_nova View Post
    How is his dinosaur comic? Is that gory?
    Light when compared to his other works yet the point still stands that even with gore Kirkman can still tell an entertaining story with well rounded characters and in depth world building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jade_nova View Post
    How is his dinosaur comic? Is that gory?
    No, Super Dinosaur is an all ages title. No gore.
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    What all ties into the invincible universe? You read the Superpatriot, Tech Jacket, Science Dog, Invincible Universe, Brit, Guarding the Globe, etc. trades?
    Invincible, All-New X-Factor, Sex Criminals, Tech Jacket, Superior Iron-Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarolinaBatmanFanGuy View Post
    What all ties into the invincible universe? You read the Superpatriot, Tech Jacket, Science Dog, Invincible Universe, Brit, Guarding the Globe, etc. trades?
    The only official ones in the same universe are Tech Jacket, Invincible Universe, Brit, and Guarding the Globe.

    Science Dog is a "fictional" comic (Mark's favorite) within the Invincible universe but the actual Science Dog stories are not set in the same universe.

    Invincible has guest starred in other comics such as SuperPatriot, Savage Dragon, and Dynamo 5 but those stories are not in canon. Best to think of them as basically an alternate universe version. Essentially the same character but Savage Dragon universe's version of it for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    I have a theory that perhaps Robot's time in that other dimension had messed him up somehow.
    Robot has mentioned having a master plan in the past. It seems he is putting his plan into motion now.

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    This book continues to be hilariously horrendous. And it's hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    Light when compared to his other works yet the point still stands that even with gore Kirkman can still tell an entertaining story with well rounded characters and in depth world building.
    That is true but sometimes the gore can be a bit much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jade_nova View Post
    That is true but sometimes the gore can be a bit much.
    No argument on it. But unlike other pointless gore situations there is a point to this one. It signifies that when things get intense the heroes doesn't use kid gloves, they go all out. And sometimes things get pretty messy.

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    That was such an intense issue. I Kirkman really made me completely hate Robot so far for killing Cecil and ripping Eve's leg off. As long as Kirkman spends the next arc picking the pieces back up from Robot's attempt at takeover/Mark's rape/fallout from Mark and Eve's relationship etc I will be happy. These past few issues have been a huge shift for Invincible and as long as he treats these twists with respect and isn't doing it "just cuz", I'll be a-ok.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legato View Post
    No argument on it. But unlike other pointless gore situations there is a point to this one. It signifies that when things get intense the heroes doesn't use kid gloves, they go all out. And sometimes things get pretty messy.
    I agree. Yes it's done for shock, but that's how this book is. It can be gruesome. This isn't Captain Cold robbing a bank, this is Robot basically attempting to take over the world and people trying to stop him. He has become a psycho, quick to anger and will do anything to complete this goal. He has become cold and calculating. I personally love this transition. I don't love torture porn, as some have called on other forums, but I find this gripping. We haven't seen an incredible amount of gore (not including 108) for a little while now I think. The gloves are coming off and this is a big threat, it's the "new Viltrumite War" for the comic.

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    And honestly this isn't the worst I've seen when it comes to Gore. The Boys make Invincible look G-Rated in comparison.

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    What the hell did I just read?

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