Invincible

[Legato]

Robot pretty much proved to be Lex's counterpart.

Exactly which Lex are we talking about here? The villain one or the good Lex from the alternate universe?

[Legato]

I was going to drop this series for good if Eve or the baby died in #112, and it looks like neither of those things has happened yet, but what did happen was almost as bad. The violence in this series has reached pornographic levels. Kirkman's writing has stopped being realistic and is simply about shock value.

It looks like my Invincible collection is going to stop at #111.

My deal breaking point would have been if Eve's response to Mark being raped is handled in a poor manner but I can agree that Eve and the baby dying would also be the final straw for me also.

[InformationGeek]

I'm just starting to read this series now (only read one volume) and seeing these posts is making me not sure if I want to continue reading it. I read The Walking Dead for awhile and gave up on it because it felt like the story was going in circles and being gory and violent for sake of gore and violence. It felt empty and hollow, with no reason to care about anyone because it felt like they were pointless and would be killed by the whim of the writer for shock value and nothing more.

It's Invincible turning into that?

[Legato]

I'm just starting to read this series now (only read one volume) and seeing these posts is making me not sure if I want to continue reading it. I read The Walking Dead for awhile and gave up on it because it felt like the story was going in circles and being gory and violent for sake of gore and violence. It felt empty and hollow, with no reason to care about anyone because it felt like they were pointless and would be killed by the whim of the writer for shock value and nothing more.

It's Invincible turning into that?

As of recently it's basically violence and gore for the sake of violence and gore. And superheroes dieing in a pointless manner and it's basically The Viltrumites show while none Viltrumites are just meaningless cannon fodder.

[Prime]

It better be Abridged Frieza. Still find regular Frieza just as funny though

It will be revealed that someone controlled the viltrumites.

[Prime]

Exactly which Lex are we talking about here? The villain one or the good Lex from the alternate universe?

Villain. Even thought the 'good' one was a psycho.

[capuga]

I'm just starting to read this series now (only read one volume) and seeing these posts is making me not sure if I want to continue reading it. I read The Walking Dead for awhile and gave up on it because it felt like the story was going in circles and being gory and violent for sake of gore and violence. It felt empty and hollow, with no reason to care about anyone because it felt like they were pointless and would be killed by the whim of the writer for shock value and nothing more.

It's Invincible turning into that?

It's not just shock value. Yes, it is gory and violent. But Kirkman's goal has always been to show realistic consequences of what would happen if superpowered beings actually fought. It does real damage. And we are seeing a betrayal and a guy trying to take over the world. So of course we will see violence, because he is eliminating opposition.

Just because the story contains a lot of death and violence doesn't mean that it is pointless or just for the purpose of shock value.

[The Doctor]

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Black Samson - Ultimately doesn't matter because in 112 issues they never did much with him at all as one of the last original GotG, but Im pissed because I had always wanted to see them actually give him a good storyline. The Elephant - I mean he's just an alternate Rhino pretty much, sucks a bit to see him go. Kid Thor - I guess I'm okay with his death, but I don't understand how Robot broke his hammer? Isn't it supposed to be strong similar to Mjolnir? Knockout - Never cared much about her to be honest. Shapesmith - I am severely broken up about his death. One of my favorite supporting characters and someone I always thought they could delve even more into. I guess his main story was way back when he first came to earth. So very sad that he's gone now.... Yeti - seems interesting. I think he's mostly in the supporting books, which I haven't read much of. He must be pretty powerful he took two or three shots to the face that killed Black Samson in one hit. Glad he survived though I'd trade him for some of these others. Donald's body - Glad he survived. Him or Brit probably take over for Cecil. Pentagon blown up - I would assume the Invincible robot things died since they were right there fighting Robot. Potentially Sinclair and his wife could have possibly died. Mrs. Popper? Who knows. Monster Girl - we don't know but I fully expect she'd make it otherwise why cliffhang it?

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It's not just shock value. Yes, it is gory and violent. But Kirkman's goal has always been to show realistic consequences of what would happen if superpowered beings actually fought. It does real damage. And we are seeing a betrayal and a guy trying to take over the world. So of course we will see violence, because he is eliminating opposition.

Just because the story contains a lot of death and violence doesn't mean that it is pointless or just for the purpose of shock value.

I agree with Puga. This just continues to add to why Invincible is better than Marvel or DC. Most of these characters wouldn't stay dead a year, but 90% of the time a character dies in this comic he's dead for good, they don't bring them back. That's not Marvel/DC at all. This just makes room for new players to stand up. Honestly with Robot going up against the Viltrumites I expect a few of them will get taken out here soon as well.

[Legato]

spoilers:

Black Samson - Ultimately doesn't matter because in 112 issues they never did much with him at all as one of the last original GotG, but Im pissed because I had always wanted to see them actually give him a good storyline. The Elephant - I mean he's just an alternate Rhino pretty much, sucks a bit to see him go. Kid Thor - I guess I'm okay with his death, but I don't understand how Robot broke his hammer? Isn't it supposed to be strong similar to Mjolnir? Knockout - Never cared much about her to be honest. Shapesmith - I am severely broken up about his death. One of my favorite supporting characters and someone I always thought they could delve even more into. I guess his main story was way back when he first came to earth. So very sad that he's gone now.... Yeti - seems interesting. I think he's mostly in the supporting books, which I haven't read much of. He must be pretty powerful he took two or three shots to the face that killed Black Samson in one hit. Glad he survived though I'd trade him for some of these others. Donald's body - Glad he survived. Him or Brit probably take over for Cecil. Pentagon blown up - I would assume the Invincible robot things died since they were right there fighting Robot. Potentially Sinclair and his wife could have possibly died. Mrs. Popper? Who knows. Monster Girl - we don't know but I fully expect she'd make it otherwise why cliffhang it?

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I agree with Puga. This just continues to add to why Invincible is better than Marvel or DC. Most of these characters wouldn't stay dead a year, but 90% of the time a character dies in this comic he's dead for good, they don't bring them back. That's not Marvel/DC at all. This just makes room for new players to stand up. Honestly with Robot going up against the Viltrumites I expect a few of them will get taken out here soon as well.

I suppose the criticism could boil down to that after all the crap Marvel/DC shoved down our throats some people assume that this arc is just another typical shock valued death crisis arc. Yet in actuality there is probably a compelling story that Kirkmans telling in this arc.

[Legato]

Even if Monster Girl lives I question what is there left for her to do? Does she end up ruling the dimension that she and Robot were imprisoned in? Will there be an arc that has her reconcile with her son?

[capuga]

Even if Monster Girl lives I question what is there left for her to do? Does she end up ruling the dimension that she and Robot were imprisoned in? Will there be an arc that has her reconcile with her son?

My best guess is she breaks her son out of prison and they help lead the resistance against Robot.

[Legato]

My best guess is she breaks her son out of prison and they help lead the resistance against Robot.

Sure but where does she go after this arc is over? Her best character arcs usually involves Robot

[capuga]

Sure but where does she go after this arc is over? Her best character arcs usually involves Robot

Doesn't mean Kirkman can't come up with something cool without Robot. Jilted girlfriend building a relationship with her long lost son? There's some story material there.

[Bluekey]

I was going to drop this series for good if Eve or the baby died in #112, and it looks like neither of those things has happened yet, but what did happen was almost as bad. The violence in this series has reached pornographic levels. Kirkman's writing has stopped being realistic and is simply about shock value.

It looks like my Invincible collection is going to stop at #111.

What little violence we did get was tame compared to what I was expecting. we've seen much more violence in the past. If you detest violence so much...why did you not drop the series but in like what issue 10? Where mark fought his dad.

[JaggedFel]

Its not Personal...yeah that makes it so much better. How about some inhibitor collars? Robot