Rejected Five Year Plan For Sony's Spider-Man Films

[Mister Mets]

Wikileaks recently posted all the Sony hacked emails. Juan Capdet, Executive Director, Creative Advertising (Screen Gems) at Sony Pictures Entertainment, hadsome interesting suggestions for a five year plan. This was in an email he sent David Kamimow, Sony's head of marketing at the time.

Dear Dwight and David,
So I have been doing a lot of thinking... over the past weeks we have seen both Marvel (who have a tight plan) and DC/WB (who look like they might finally be getting their **** together) make huge announcements for the future of their slates and franchises. On the other hand, we have been assailed by rumour after rumour of bizarre spin-offs (Aunt May) or that Spidey is going to be sold or loaned back to Marvel. What we need is a solid plan for the future. Clearly laid out for the next five years at least that shows the fanship and the public that Spidey is still in safe hands. I also believe that this studio needs a dedicated Spider Division that runs as a studio within the studio. Marvel and DC Entertainment are successful because there are dedicated resources and teams that just focus on these properties. We need that here.On that note, here are my ideas for the future of the franchise. These are just rough outlines but I think could be a good start to the path to success. I thank you in advance for humouring me by listening to me. Looking forward to your thoughts...

PROPOSED ROLL OUT OF FUTURE FILMS:

Amazing Spider-man: Kraven (in Sinister 6 slot in 2016) - in a never before move we do a prequel to ASM2, Gwen is still alive. Norman is still alive but increasingly getting sicker. He has seen and heard of Spider-man/Peter Parker (following the events of ASM1) and having seen that he was wounded by the police shooter has hired a Russian big game hunter, Kraven, to track him down and bring him in. Norman believes that in Peter's blood is the key to cure him. Kraven ultimately captures Peter/Spidey and supplies Norman with vials of his blood. Norman, in an attempt to synthesize a cure, actually ends up becoming the original Goblin and transforms like the Ultimate version. Spidey and Gobby battle it out with Gobby running away weak and which leads us to the frail state that we see Norman in ASM2.

Sinister 6 - move to first half 2017
Spider-man 2099 (2nd half 2017)- this is our Captain America-type franchise. Instead of a period WWII film, we have a futuristic New York in the year 2099. Miguel O'Hara origin story (heads up genetics department at Alchemax and becomes Spider-man). He is up against the evil conglomerate Alchemax and trying to battle either Morlun (who will chase him through time to devour him) or Kron Stone (Venom 2099). In the end the villain is defeated while battling at Alchemax and Miguel/S2099 ends up being sent back in time to present day NYC. This leads into a team up with 616-Spidey to take down Carnage (Payoff level event)

ASM: Venom (first half 2018) - Eddie Brock Jr "ultimate" origin story but with some 616 details. In the end Spidey defeats Venom and sends him to Ryker's. Coda shows the birth of Carnage

ASM: Black Cat (second half 2018) - Felicia Hardy gets properly introduced. We see her get her "luck powers" from Wilson Fisk/Kingpin. Eventually she has an encounter with Spidey and it ends with an understanding that she is not the bad person she appears to be.

Carnage (2019) - the event that everyone has been wanting. Cletus Kasady makes his debut and it will take a team-up like no other to take him down. Peter/Spidey, Miguel/Spider-man 2099, Venom and Black Cat join forces to bring him to justice. This would be a hard PG-13 with the possibility of an unrated bloodier version for home entertainment.

ASM: Jackal (second half 2019) - Dr Miles Warren had fallen in love with Gwen when she interned at Oscorp. When she died he blamed Spidey for her death and vowed vengeance. He attempts to clone her but fails. Instead using the blood and tissue samples that Norman had Kraven acquire he creates two low-grade clones of Peter, one who will eventually Ben Reilly and the other Kaine. He uses these to clones to unleash chaos on the city and not until Spidey defeats them and figures out that they are the same can the bring down Jackal. Here we see the birth of Scarlet Spider.

Spider-man 2099 2 (first half of 2020) - Miguel is stuck in the present day but is trying to get back to 2099. However he must keep Tiberius Stone (his future grandfather) alive or his whole existence will cease. S2099 encounters Mac Gargan, Scorpion and they battle it out. But will Miguel get back to his time...
Thanks again for hearing me out. And I have plenty more where this came from.
Sincerely,Juan

The Crawlspace has some commentary on the links. H/T Stillanerd.

This is probably just a marketting guy coming up with as many ideas as possible. I counted at least five films in four years in which Spider-Man is a major character, which highlights one of Sony's major problems. They've got plenty of stories with Spider-Man they can adapt, but not as many good spinoffs.

[cyberhubbs]

Eh. It's an actual plan, sure, but sounds like Juan stopped reading comics sometime in the 90s.

[Agent Z]

Eh. It's an actual plan, sure, but sounds like Juan stopped reading comics sometime in the 90s.

What do you mean?

[cyberhubbs]

What do you mean?

His ideas, whether they're fake or not, seem to point toward someone who looks back fondly on the 90s era. Like MarioHerald confirmed, Juan was a teen around that time and probably in prime comic collecting mode.

[Agent Z]

His ideas, whether they're fake or not, seem to point toward someone who looks back fondly on the 90s era. Like MarioHerald confirmed, Juan was a teen around that time and probably in prime comic collecting mode.

You mean the Carnage and 2099 things? He also included the Sinister Six and Black Cat which weren't 90s creations and have been well received in the comics and other media.

[cyberhubbs]

You mean the Carnage and 2099 things? He also included the Sinister Six and Black Cat which weren't 90s creations and have been well received in the comics and other media.

He probably bought back issues. I'm just saying, you can kinda tell what he's a big fan of. Not that it's a bad thing, just an observation.

[Sardorim]

Eh. It's an actual plan, sure, but sounds like Juan stopped reading comics sometime in the 90s.

Eh, the 2nd half of 2099 seems to be a call back to the 2099 book before Spiderverse so that's not that old of a story.

[cyberhubbs]

Eh, the 2nd half of 2099 seems to be a call back to the 2099 book before Spiderverse so that's not that old of a story.

True. Just a lot of 90s lore included in his ideas. You can usually tell someone's favorite era by what they're willing to use from a mythos.

Not that the 2099 stuff is a bad idea. We have the special effects quality to do the concept justice these days.

[Shadow]

IF this is indeed real. I hope they still get around to Kaine and Miguel(Just give us Kaine without killing Gwen again please)

[GrandEleven]

I'm going to be honest .... this reeks of fake fanservice. Yeah I know it was posted on wikileaks ... but basically everything about this email screams wrong.

Reasons:

1. Head of marketing (for all of Sony) is apparently very caught up with the intricacies of the Spider-man universe. Casual dropping of names as if anyone other than spider-man diehards would know who they are (Scarlet Spider) to calling out Carnage as "the event everyone is wanting" (most people have no idea who carnage is ... he's just a spin off of Venom's popularity anyway).

2. Reference to Earth 616 .... really? Again only comic regulars know anything about the multiverse layout. Even Marvel's own movies avoid using that reference because EVERYONE knows that the movie audience isn't ready for that much Sci-Fi yet. Email to a marketing exec the first thing he'll say is "that means nothing to me ... how do we make this accessible".

3. "This would be a hard PG-13 with the possibility of an unrated bloodier version for home entertainment." If there was any doubt this was written by a hardcore fanboy: this is the neon sign of fake.

I could be wrong of course ... but this just feels off on a thousand levels.

OH and sorry but this line here:
"Clearly laid out for the next five years at least that shows the fanship and the public that Spidey is still in safe hands."

I think the whorl reason there's so much rumor Spidey will end up back at marvel is because the public has no faith Spidey is in safe hands. At all. All that stock was blown on Spiderman 3, and the reboot did nothing to fix that.

[Kevinroc]

That one of those ideas for a movie is an interquel says a lot about how Sony thinks they handled the franchise.

[marvelguy25]

i know sony did some stupid things in the leaks but i agree with Grand Eleven that this does sound fake

[Aruran.]

It's funny none of them got called ASM 3.

But seriously why would they mention a rumour in a email if everyone receiving the email clearly knew it wasn't happening.

[MarioHerald]

I know these are probably fake as GrandEleven says, but...

"Spider-man 2099"

That's... quite out of left field. But I like Miguel's adventures.

"... one who will eventually [be] Ben Reilly and the other Kaine".

!!!!!!!!!!!!

Really wish this one happened. (I still have my dream of a Kaine in Houston series, movie or even just an animation).

EDIT:

1. Head of marketing (for all of Sony) is apparently very caught up with the intricacies of the Spider-man universe.

Eh. It's an actual plan, sure, but sounds like Juan stopped reading comics sometime in the 90s.

You know, that wouldn't be a farfetched possibility. He was in high-school from 1994 to 1998.

Check his LinkedIn profile.

[Probalus]

It's funny none of them got called ASM 3.

But seriously why would they mention a rumour in a email if everyone receiving the email clearly knew it wasn't happening.

They talk about the rumors in their emails a lot actually, including discussions about where many of the untrue rumors come from. Seems like they do seriously care about what happens on the Internet.

Judging from the other Sony emails though, it does seem to be a good thing that Juan knows his stuff, because almost no one else at Sony seem to.

I'm going to be honest .... this reeks of fake fanservice. Yeah I know it was posted on wikileaks ... but basically everything about this email screams wrong.

Not sure you understand what this is about... It's a database of all the emails that were leaked by the Sony hackers. I don't know how you can suggest that random fake emails are being planted in this database to appease comic book fans is a likely scenario.

And what's wrong with the head of marketing of a company actually knowing the intricacies of the company's BIGGeST franchise?