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    One More Day/Brand New Day will always be the worst for me.

    However, I'm very quickly beginning to hate the "Bobby is gay" retcon. Not because of what it is, I'm happy for the character to be gay, it means nothing to me personally and the character in the long run. What makes me hate it is all the smug "We've known it all along" crowd that's pulling just about every failure Bobby has had with a woman and going "HEY!! See this! It proves this has been alluded to for years! I spotted it back in X-Men Issue 85! I'm so smart and progressively thinking!".

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottsummer View Post
    Everything Grant Morrison NXM (Fucking Xorn and many more)
    What Xorn retcon happened in Morrison's NXM?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottsummer View Post
    Everything Grant Morrison NXM (Fucking Xorn and many more)

    Can you be more specific. I mean I don't doubt for even 10 seconds that Morrison kinda... broke the X-Men. But what were the actual Retcons.
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    Sin past is waful. Norman Osborn would never sleep with a whiny girl like Gwen Stacy. He's more classy than that.

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    - Xorn being Magneto
    - Emma Frost's diamond power because 'planted' by Cassandra Nova
    - Making Mary Jane a total bitch to ease fans into the idea of retconning away her marriage to Peter in One More Day.
    - Morrison bringing Jean back from the dead with zero explanation and making the phoenix force a power she just has instead of it being a cosmic entity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    - Xorn being Magneto.
    He always was. The retcon would be that he wasn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    - Emma Frost's diamond power because 'planted' by Cassandra Nova
    I thought that was just an illusion, like Kitty's baby.


    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    - Morrison bringing Jean back from the dead with zero explanation and making the phoenix force a power she just has instead of it being a cosmic entity.
    Neither of those happened during New X-Men. I'm not sure the second has ever happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t hedge coke View Post
    He always was. The retcon would be that he wasn't.
    I remember reading something by Morrison that it was an editorial thing that made Xorn Magneto, when Morrison had planned otherwise.
    Quote Originally Posted by t hedge coke View Post
    I thought that was just an illusion, like Kitty's baby.
    I might need to go back and reread Whedon's Astonishing run but I never saw it as an illusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    I remember reading something by Morrison that it was an editorial thing that made Xorn Magneto, when Morrison had planned otherwise.
    Xorn was always planned as Magneto.

    What he does with his powers, the whole time, only makes sense, really, if he's got magnetic powers. With "healing" powers, he can't kill robots, shoot blasts, or rend steel. We just kind of accepted that he could because they said so.
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    There's a bunch. Half of everything that's happened to Spider-Man in the past 20 years. Clone saga, Chapter One, the Other, OMD, Sins Past, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSTowle View Post
    There's a bunch. Half of everything that's happened to Spider-Man in the past 20 years. Clone saga, Chapter One, the Other, OMD, Sins Past, etc.
    Agreed 100% It's a real wonder why people still reads Spidey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SidheKnight View Post
    How did he fix it?

    Oh, my answer is also Snap Wilson.
    Not only did it ruin the history of a great character, it was also downright racist.
    Remeder has Sam mention that the existence of 'Snap Wilson' was just a rumour created by the Red Skull to ruin his reputation. Image-68-350x215.jpg
    But despite how racist Snap Wilson was, I liked the idea that the hero's sidekick was a terrible person created to be the perfect sidekick by the villain. Just the way they did it was clumsy and racist.
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    I forgot to mention the retcon where Black Widow had her memories of her relationship with Bucky erased by a villain just to mess with him. Blatantly obvious how it was mandated by editorial to align with the movies, and a damn shame it had to be slopped together by such a talented writer before he left the book for good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t hedge coke View Post
    He always was. The retcon would be that he wasn't.
    I agree. Xorn always was Magneto and always should have been. Marvel trying to change that (don't know what the status is now) was one of the worst Marvel retcons.

    Mags under kick did what he did and he could have easily returned from his "death."


    I will never ever accept that Xorn wasn't Magneto. One of the best reveals in comics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBatmanFan05 View Post
    I will never ever accept that Xorn wasn't Magneto. One of the best reveals in comics.
    I find it easiest to chalk it up to Wanda messing with reality.

    And, since, these days, half the references seem to have Magneto as Magneto in Planet X, while the other half still hold to the two Xorns story, I suppose it makes more sense even than picking one and trying to erase the other.
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    Wiccan and Speed as the reincarnated souls of the Scarlet Witch and Vision's children.

    If that's the case, than whose baby souls did Master Pandemonium graft to his wrists?



    Huh? How do you explain that, Marvel?

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